I've gotta rewatch that Guy Pearce Time Machine movie now
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I remember buying a Meater thermometer. I thought it was so cool to be able to monitor your cooking temperature from my phone.
But then I learned two things:
There is no way for you to read the data locally.
I sold it and replaced it with a fully local thermometer that works without Bluetooth. Sure it can't show it on my phone but damn if I am going to let a company chain me to their data center just so I can read a fucking thermometer.
There really needs to be a directory of "not so smart" devices. Like one that's still readable via bluetooth, but not requiring an account for data harvesting.
There's so fucking much potential in modern tech that is being squandered by every fucking company trying to be their own walled garden data brokers. And the results of all that data collection are abysmal! When's the last time most of us have seen an ad that legitimately informed us of something we didn't know existed but ended up wanting?
The productivity and quality of life lost because everything doesn't just have an open/publicly documented interoperable API is immeasurable.
Dude this is like my core ethos. It irritates the shit out of me. Like you said, just endless squandered potential for fucking what? So dumb. Not to mention all the energy waste throwing around all that data and endlessly recording and storing it.
Let me know when you’ve created this community.
EDIT: I made !ethicalconsumerism@sh.itjust.works long ago and never really used it for anything. Seems like a good use of it to me.
isn't this just Louis Rossmann's extended community? (not claiming that he is the all father of it, just a notable name)
https://www.futo.org/about/what-is-futo/
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Main_Page
Let me know too
The point of advertising isn't always about informing you of something new but to remind you of the brand.
There isn't a soul on this planet that doesn't know Coca Cola but they still advertise.
Targeted advertising isn't the main market for mass data collection. The main market is political. Cambridge analytica used subliminal messaging to help the Antichrist get elected in 2016. They were caught, but other companies are still using the technology today. They're just hiding it better and using it smarter. That, along with the decline of late stage capitalism, is why the devil's servants are gaining influence all over the world.
Check out "works with home assistant"
If you have to be in Bluetooth range, why the fuck does it need to talk to a cloud service?
To snitch on you and spy on you.
That's what I said!!!
The device was less than useless without Internet access.
Tbh I probably should have done more research before buying it.
It probably only has a Bluetooth radio and no WiFi for cost and power savings (Nordic chips are extremely power efficient), so in order to talk to it, you have to do it with Bluetooth, but then they make the protocol completely proprietary so you can only use their app, and then make you have your internet on and their server reachable to enable looking at the data as a sort of DRM/make sure that they can harvest your data.
That is my guess though. If it's true, the thermometer is probably hackable unless they went all out on Bluetooth encrypted pairing.
data
If I made a thermometer that I could view wirelessly, I would only make an offline option. I am not going to try to design an app and maintain a server that will forever eat my money for a thermometer.
I really want one that integrates with Home Assistant. The biggest issue I have is knowing when my grill is running cold. The thermometer I have now only tracks current temperature and not throughout the cook.
That's shortsighted. First, you make the thermometer that depends on your app and server that eats money. Then, when you have enough users that the server costs are significant, you hold all the thermometer's for ransom with a new subscription service that more than covers the cost of the server, introduce ads into the app, and sell user data under new terms that users are forced to agree to in order to continue using their thermometers. If you can figure out a way to shoehorn an "AI" in there, do that too for an additional subscription and make sure very sure that the people not paying more for the AI know that they could pay more to have AI.
I bought into Meatstick and their Wi-Fi bridge lets me monitor from anywhere in the house. It also doubles as a local digital display so I don't have to pull out my phone if I'm in front of it. Meater doesn't have something similar?
Last I looked (2ish years ago?) they were working on a base-station where it sits between the grill and your phone, which has a longer range. But the base technology is still bluetooth.