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Serious question, I have no idea. Is there an established tradition, sequence of events, rule?

I just asked some kids, and they said they'd come later and secretly do some trick on me, but they didn't seem too sure about it either.

This in Europe btw.

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[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 77 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Trick or treat is actually a social contract you give treats so kids don’t eggs your house

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

My family never really did Halloween.

I mean I kinda went trick-or-treating for the first 2 Halloweens in NYC, but then I just felt like it was too childish. But I was 10, idk who I'm calling childish, I was literally still a child, maybe its the social anxiety.

We never gave out candy (I mean... we were literally broke ourselves), and idk what this "you'll get egged" come from, that never happened.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Halloween is huge in the suburbs, not so much in the city. I lived in the city for almost 20 years and my doorbell never rang once on Halloween. People don't even really decorate.

The threat of a trick is just for fun, though. If someone answered the door, they are giving you candy. If they don't, oh well! To the next house! Pranks like throwing toilet paper or egging (way less common) was for friends, enemies, and random houses. And that was teenagers doing it, not trick or treaters.

I'm back in the suburbs this year and am really looking forward to it starting in 2 hours. I have a ton of candy and homemade dog treats! I'm gonna ask them what their trick would be...maybe I'll come back and share some of the funny ones.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

Brooklyn, NY did Halloween.

I remember in like 2010 or 2011 going up and down the entire 86th street for like 3-7 block. Sooo many people, some stores ran out, or maybe they lied and didn't participate and just had a big "NO CANDY" sign on the door.

Ah, memories. I was so nervous at the time, but in hindsight, that was a good memory. Such innocent me. I got so nervoid when I saw classmate lol, like the idea of seeing classmated outside of school was so terrifying to me. Like... embarassment was my top fear at the time, now... the fears are so much more political.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

This is anecdotal but I’m born and raised in nyc and if I got raisins the house got eggs and apt doors got eggs too

[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I egged 1 house out of retaliation back in the day. My friends and I were like 14- 15at the time, and were taking out our siblings, then going tp 2 parties, an earlier chaperoned house party, then a bonfire in the woods, after we dropped them back off.

One house were complete dicks to the younger kids, made my friend's little sister cry making fun of her costume. So we all went home as planned, but grabbed our eggs, and stashed them nearby the first party, along with out supplies for the second party. When we left the chaperoned party at like 11, we swung back by the offending house on our bikes, pelted their house with ~3 dozen eggs, aiming for the wood shingles and up high, knowing it would be a bitch to clean, then rode off to our bonfire party splitting up for the first half of the ride in case they called the cops.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

But is it ever happening this way?
Do people really answer "trick" when asked?
Or rather anything from "no treat, sorry" to "fuck off you lousy brats"?
How does the ritual continue then? What do the kids answer?
And then, do they vandalize that person's property, usually, or are there other types of tricks?
Do they do it immediately, or do they circle back later, secretly?

PS: Egging or TPing would require the kids to come prepared for that outcome. That's another thing I'm wondering about. Do kids really do that these days, if so where.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It used to! Kids would steal wood, break down fences, take outdoor furniture, and use it to build a big bonfire in the center of their towns. They would egg houses and run wild.

Modern trick-or-treating and Halloween parties were invented to counter this destructive behavior, actually. Tasting History did a pretty cool episode on it.

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[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Immediate civilizational collapse.

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Time to rip the Band-Aid off.

[–] ButteredMonkey@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I've tried it with younger kids 8-10 and older kids (11-13). When I said "Ok I'll take the trick then." they just stand there with a confused look on their face. Even if I explain that I don't want to give you candy, so go ahead and trick me, I've only had one kid who said "What's that? and pointed over my shoulder." The others continued to stand there confused or started to walk away.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Nice. Too many kids have to be prompted to even use the incantation “trick or treat” much less pay attention to the words

[–] netvor@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Someone has to teach those little gangstas how extortion is done.

Well at least you tried...

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

One year I learned it was a valid option, I prepared card tricks and wore a t-shirt that said "It's OK to choose trick" or something like that, and not one person chose trick. I remember being vaguely disappointed.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not the kids who choose. They say "trick or treat" because if you don't give them a treat, they will trick you. By vandalizing your house. That's the tradition.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's how you get egged and/or TPd.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So how does that work, what does the ritual demand then? Do kids do it immediately or do they circle back later? Do they come prepared for that outcome? And why would any adult ever answer like that if they know that's what's going to happen? Or is it enough to not open the door? Or to say I have no treats? Do you have personal experience of such outcomes?

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Typically circle back late. Normally the adolescent ones without guardians. You wake up and house is in a state in need of cleaning.

Typically, home outer light needs to be on to signal you are open for giving treats. So no rational adult would not have a treat as that is a dick move. Some leave out containers of candies as offerings to avoid outcome if it they aren't home.

If no candy, money is always acceptable! I heard a story of old lady giving rolls of coins once. Doubt kid will say no to money.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In some ways money is actually better than candy.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 2 days ago

We'd wait until nobody was around and then sneak out with eggs a d toilet paper and then cover your house in it.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

When I was a kid it was shaving cream. Take a can, put a needle in the nozzle, then melt the nozzle with a cigarette lighter. Once it’s cooled pull the pin out so you have a pinhole nozzle. It’ll spray the shaving cream ten feet or more.

I honestly forget how I learned that trick…

[–] solidsmoke@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The "trick" is usually some kind of innocent vandalism like throwing toilet paper around. That being said, as a kid I was never prepared for that and never had it happen

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for an honest answer. I suspect most commenters here are larping.

[–] Nora@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

the only time it ever happened i saw as a kid was parents signing up to be "tricked" and groups of kids tp'ing the signed up houses so the kids could have fun.

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[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You did not keep a dozen or so eggs in your treat bag for that contingency?

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My neighbor choosey trick each year. He lives at the top of hill with a long driveway and leaves out joke treats. I think it was a bucket of frozen fish this year

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 9 points 3 days ago

Here, it used to be your house got egged or trees/shrubs tp'd

[–] CandleTiger@programming.dev 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Mark Twain talks about tipping over outhouse and other pranks as the main activity on Halloween. So I guess if we assume he’s an honest narrator of his time (definitely in doubt..) then trick or treating is a mass extortion

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[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I grew up in the 80s and we never had any tricks. Older generations did, it wasn't nice. Like they'd break stuff. Decorations, pumpkins, nothing major. But we never did

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Older generations did

So what's the ritual? You come to the house, say trick or treat, I'm guessing the adult never answers "trick" but rather fuck off or no treat. What then? Do the kids immediately start wrecking?

[–] ButteredMonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No. My experience growing up in Appalachia in the 80's was the kids (who were older 15-20) were not trick or treating. They were just going out to cause mayhem. Houses where I lived were far enough apart (miles) that you trick or treated by auto. I remember several Halloweens that were disrupted because someone had cut a tree down across the road blocking it. One memorable Halloween someone piled old tires under an overpass and set them on fire preventing anyone from proceeding further.

No one says eff off to the kids. If you're not participating you turn your porch/outside lights off and kids know not to visit your house. They just move on. 99% of the stories are mischief makers or someone who has a problem with you prior to Halloween. (Like you are a teacher or something.)

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[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

When I was a kid, there was no Halloween in our culture, but on a slightly similar occasion our verse ended with "...or we break a hole into your house"

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Where I'm from we just did the "trick" part. Ran around in dark clothing on 30th April* in the late evening, fairly distributing toilet paper if we were unimaginative, and painting cows violet if we were more creative. General mischief, is what I'm saying, none of that bargaining for sweets, your house is going to be TP'ed and you'll like it because the alternative might be actual property damage.

* I... think that was the date. It's been a while and I don't live there anymore.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Sounds like something you'd do at Walpurgisnacht. I remember women actually carrying scissors to cut off men's ... neckties or other parts of clothing. Or nighttime carnival where we'd just make infernal noise throughout the city center.

I miss the mischief.

The way you describe it, Southern Germany or Austria or Switzerland?

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[–] BorisBoreUs@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The original idea was that the "trick" was the default (some type of mischief or vandalism) but the costumed (annonymous) tricksters would give the person a chance to be spared by offering a "treat" instead.

We've gone so soft.....

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago

I thought that. Kids would have to a) come prepared for tricks (eggs, TP...) and b) not be recognizable. And I guess it also required that sweets/treats were more precious and less ubiquitous than they are today.

I think most traditional feasts used to have some sort of good/bad dualism built in, but over time the bad part got removed.

[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago

An adult did this to me when I was a kid and got mad when I started spraying them with silly string.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They'll shit in your jack-o-lantern

[–] netvor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I see, So that's what the jack-o-lanterns are for?

So they are actually not lanterns but temporary toilets, but then someone got an idea to put candles in them so that it at least makes the "trick" part kind of uncomfortable. Right?

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Instead of kisses, you get kicked.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Had some kids at the door a few minutes ago. Your "trick or treat" is a bit longer and elaborate in our language here, and involves the word for "wallpaper paste" as it rhymes with our word for "ghosts".

So I replied with "Wallpaper paste? I think I have a bucket in the basement, just a moment!" And turned around towards the stairs.

You should have seen their faces...

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[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

One of the wittier guys in the trailer park I grew up in did that trick where it looks like you can pull one of your fingers off from one hand. As an 8 year old, that was fucking cool. Perhaps you could even augment it with some fake blood.

Another time he did the quarter behind your ear trick and then gave us the quarter.

To this day, I still remember him more than any shucker of a Milky Way or Babe Ruth candy bar. So yeah, go for it, make an impression.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago

Oh, I thought it was the kids that are supposed to trick the adults?

[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago

Straight to jail

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

That's when I juggle knives for you.

Yes, I own a set of purpose-buily juggling knives.

Thought about doing fire this year, but I worked late, it was raining, and I didn't get a chance to do a few days of practice to make sure I'd be in good form to safely do it

[–] Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Where I'm from it's not really trick or treat. It's just treat. If they see a house that has any form of Halloween decoration, they'll visit it expecting a treat. They skip houses that have no decorations with the assumption they are not participating.

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