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Well, every website I find is either crashing either not working on mobile.

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[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 29 points 2 days ago

If you're mobile-only, that's probably going to be a problem.

The only tools I know are Glaze and Nightshade. Think of them as defense and offense, respectively. They both introduce subtle changes to your image that make it harder for AI to use it. Well I say subtle - the stronger the protection the more noticeable the effect is to the human eye.

Glaze is defense, meaning AI can't use the image to imitate your style. I don't personally use it because I'm simply not well-known enough for anyone to want to specifically imitate my nonsense.

Nightshade is offense, it poisons the AI's data with useless information. Basically it makes the AI think that an image of, say, a cat is a chimney. That's what I use on anything I upload.

You can use both, though I don't remember if there's a recommended order in which to use them. The effect will then also be more noticeable. If you decide to use one or both, you should play around with the settings to see what's tolerable to you and what makes sense for an individual image.

Last time I looked, they were working on a mobile solution but I haven't heard anything on that front, unfortunately.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Post them privately, or not at all.
Especially if you want to sell anything. Then only post your art in that store.

[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

okay what if my art is so crap if I try to sell it nobody will even buy it

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

welcome to iniciant artist with shit art style that won't sell anything

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Then what are you worried about?

[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I got kind of the childish art style, who knows? Someone might go to AI and say "create a child like drawing of..."

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You're definitely an artist, with the modesty.
I'm curious to see some of your stuff

[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

I have those webcomics on tumblr, they're not finished yet and most aren't even in english, but: https://bossgotanownerau.tumblr.com/

https://antiinsegurancas.tumblr.com/

https://fugoishibyoincomic.tumblr.com/

Maybe you should want to feed that to an AI then.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] planish@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There are no worse kinds of artists. If you make art, you are an artist. Congratulations.

[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

But there are still worse art styles.

[–] Angelevo@feddit.nl 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Others have already mentioned the tools.

This is a losing battle. The systems will continue to improve, obfuscation will always lag behind. My advice would be to learn to embrace it. Zen meditation can help.

Imaginably, this response may be very annoying; seeing the current trajectory of development, it is hard to imagine you can. Not sharing is the only defeat, which also defeats the purpose of art. Quite a conundrum.

[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So I got no reason to share my drawings, since it will only be good to the AI corporations

[–] canofcam@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I feel your response warrants quite a deep and philosophical response in return.

No reason to share my drawings

That depends why you were sharing them in the first place. It does suck that your content will be stolen and potentially recreated in the future - I have to ask, how do you foresee that affecting you?

Let's go back to 2010, you share your drawings, some people see and enjoy them, and the world keeps spinning. Is that what you want to share them for, for people to enjoy them?

If that's the case, then my question is: Why does that change if AI is scraping your drawings?

People will still see and enjoy your drawings, regardless of whether AI consumed them or not.

it will only be good to the AI corporations

Why will it only be good to the AI corporations? That implies that it wouldn't be good to anyone anyway, in which case, there is no point posting them either way - but I don't think that's true. I think it's good for you to share your drawings and get feedback, and it's good for other people to see them. The addition of AI is a negative one, but it doesn't remove the good, it just adds some bad.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ultimately it's up to you, but my view is that our best way of resisting AI is to build community and human connection. A friend who is an artist told me that AI has changed how and where they share their art, but that it would feel like a form of "complying in advance" if they stopped sharing their art at all.

They said that they feel completely confident that AI art will never be able to replace human art, because to them, art is fundamentally a conversation, and Generative AI is incapable of participating in a conversation, no matter how good it gets at emulating real artists.

[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

okay now the issue isn't connection with people, the issue are my drawings. I don't wanna help artista lose their jobs.

[–] turdas@suppo.fi 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Not an expert on this topic but I've read about it a fair bit and tinkered around with image generators:

You don't post them, basically. Unfortunately nothing else will really work in the long term.

There are various tools -- Glaze is the first one I can think of -- that try to subtly modify the pixels in the image in a way that is imperceptible to humans but causes the computer vision part of image generator AIs (the part that, during the training process, looks at an image and produces a text description of what is in it) to freak out and become unable to understand what is in the image. This is known as an adversarial attack in the literature.

The intention of these tools is to make it harder to use the images for training AI models, but there are several caveats:

  • Though they try to be visually undetectable to humans, they can still create obviously visible artifacts, especially on higher strength levels. This is especially noticeable on hand-drawn illustrations, less so on photographs.
  • Lower strength levels with fewer artifacts are less effective.
  • They can only target existing models, and even then won't be equally effective against all of them.
  • There are ways of mitigating or removing the effect, and it will likely not work on future AI models (preventing adversarial attacks is a major research interest in the field).

So the main thing you gain from using these is that it becomes harder for people to use your art for style transfer/fine-tuning purposes to copy your specific art style right now. The protection has an inherent time limit in it because it relies on a flaw in the AI models, which will be fixed in the future. Other abusable flaws will almost certainly remain and be discovered after the ones currently used are fixed, but the art you release now obviously cannot be protected by techniques that do not yet exist. It will be a cat-and-mouse game, and one where the protection systems play the role of the cat.

Anyway, if you want to try it, you can find the aforementioned Glaze at https://glaze.cs.uchicago.edu/. You may want to read one of their recent updates, which discusses at greater length the specific issue I bring up here, i.e. the AI models overcoming the adversarial attack and rendering the protection ineffective, and how they updated the protection to mitigate this: https://glaze.cs.uchicago.edu/update21.html

[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Recently, Glaze is now known to be easily bypassed with trivial effort on most available commercial (and also most free self-hosted) Diffuser models.

[–] GrantUsEyes@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I know about this tool, but haven't used it myself

https://glaze.cs.uchicago.edu/

Glaze is a system designed to protect human artists by disrupting style mimicry. At a high level, Glaze works by understanding the AI models that are training on human art, and using machine learning algorithms, computing a set of minimal changes to artworks, such that it appears unchanged to human eyes, but appears to AI models like a dramatically different art style.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It depends on what exactly you want to achieve. If you want money, then upload it to Adobe, Shutterstock, and such. That's the best offer you can expect. No one will offer you big bucks for an AI license just because you have protected your drawings.

If you want to have your own site, then you could rely on Cloudflare for handling the technical and legal side of preventing scraping/AI use.

But I guess the main worry for any artist is other artists who use AI. That's where Glaze and Nightshade come in. It's already been suggested but you should know how much you can expect.

These tools target the original Stable Diffusion 1.5. IIRC they also work on SD 2.0 because they reused some components. I am not sure what other versions, if any, could be affected. Certainly not the newer ones.

It goes without saying that the major companies were never affected, could not be affected. Since no one mentions it, I guess it's self-evident but I want to repeat it for the uninitiated.

I think these early models are still used partly because they have lower hardware demands and partly because they are less professionally censored (ie more suitable for porn).

Anyway, the effectiveness against hobbyists, your competitors, or other small scale AI users, is also limited. They may not use a susceptible model, especially if they make SFW images. If their model is susceptible, then these tools may waste a few hours of their time and maybe a bit of money. But it won't get rid of the competition or even significantly harm them.

[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

For now, I use tumblr, which has an option to block AI, and Ameblog (and AmeBlog is where I get worried on).

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I have an idea: if every artist/photographer etc uploaded their work with a watermark across it that said "f*ck you" then the LLMs that steal it would all start telling their users "f*ck you" as well.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can say the fuck word on Lemmy

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 5 points 2 days ago

Yeah i know. Fuck off

[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago

Let's say the LLM is looking to replicate a watercolour, if it's entire database of images tagged as "watercolour" have a giant f you emblazoned across it, the LLM just thinks that's what a watercolour is. They have no understanding of what the image is or means or anything. People call it artificial intelligence but it's the antithesis of intelligent.