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[–] Naich@lemmings.world 291 points 6 days ago (12 children)

Oh FFS. Not Brother as well. I used to recommend them to everyone. Who is left with unshittified printers?

[–] nul9o9@lemmy.world 65 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Epson inkjets with refillable tanks probably.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 89 points 6 days ago (8 children)

Depending on the frequency of your printing, they can suck as well. Chronically clogged nozzles are maddening.

[–] darkevilmac@lemmy.zip 21 points 6 days ago (7 children)

You can run a power clean cycle which should help, then just replace the foam pads they saturate with ink for the cleaning

They're not perfect but they're still the most consumer friendly option on the market at this point

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[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 177 points 6 days ago (6 children)

In case anyone was thinking this applies only to inkjet printers: no, it ONLY seems to apply to laser printers -- the thing that Brother used to be known for. Where the article says "ink", they mean "toner". There is no ink in a laser printer.

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[–] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 148 points 6 days ago (10 children)

It's like every company that wasn't complete shit just suddenly decided to...go to complete shit.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 55 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If regulators don’t stop them from doing it, the CEO’s of publicly traded companies will get the boot from the board for not doing it. They have a fiduciary duty to be as shitty as humanly possible.

We need laws to stop this, but the politicians are all bribed not to.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago (3 children)

They have a fiduciary duty to be as shitty as humanly possible.

They don't -- that's a cargo-cult misunderstanding of Dodge v. Ford Motor Co -- but it's so widely believed I guess it might as well be true.

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Unrestrained Capitalism. Without those pesky regulations, companies can charge us all unlimited amounts and not have to consider our rights or health/safety.

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 141 points 6 days ago (3 children)

You were the chosen one! 😭

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 46 points 6 days ago

They had two things going for them... Decent linux support and non-shitty DRM ink/toner

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 101 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I suggest whoever has old firmware files to upload them to the Internet Archive (if they allow those).

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[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 89 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Brother used to be the good guys... Damn.

[–] junkthief@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 6 days ago

Right? I used to recommend friends and family invest in a brother laser printer instead of inkjet, especially if they didn’t need color

[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 86 points 6 days ago

Et tu Brother?

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 81 points 5 days ago (8 children)

These motherfuckers are actively making tech as a whole less secure by destroying any trust the public may have had in firmware updates.

Urgent security fixes are gonna go unpatched on a lot of shit because consumers are seeing more and more firmware or software updates actively making things WORSE.

[–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Definitely true. I’ve been putting off an upgrade of my NAS because they have randomly decided to completely remove the video streaming software that came with it when I bought it. So infuriating.

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[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 72 points 6 days ago (3 children)

And once again the only available good tech is old 2nd hand.

[–] ghostrider2112@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yep. Just getting ready to replace the color laser printer I bought almost 10 years ago. I had been considering a new Brother before this but looks like I’m going the 2nd hand route again (last one was an open box HP from microcenter for $200 lol)

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If Brother starts playing that game, they will lose. Why bother buying their considerably more expensive printers over those of HP if they are going to be just as bad in the third party ink department?

[–] lefixxx@lemmy.world 62 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Brother losing all competitive advantage they had via reputation. Doing a very big 180 and reversing the changes and commiting to no do t his BS is the only way to undo this

[–] commander@lemmings.world 22 points 5 days ago

They must've hired some new analysts that said "hey, people are willing to accept less! Why are we doing more?"

It's up to the people to prove them wrong, but that usually doesn't happen :\

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[–] skankhunt42@lemmy.ca 52 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Nice, Brother was the last one standing in my mind.

I'm glad I have an IoT vlan without internet access. Nothing is allowed to phone home here.

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[–] digdilem@lemmy.ml 48 points 5 days ago

Thats's a shame, I always considered brother one of the better makers of paper manglers.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 44 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"You were supposed to be the one"

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Proton, Mozilla, Brother

Its not gonna stop there

😓

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[–] themaninblack@lemmy.world 39 points 5 days ago

Et tu, frater?

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 37 points 5 days ago (8 children)
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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago (1 children)

nononononononpnNONONONONONO WHYYYYY I JUST GOT A BROTHER BECAUSE OF HP DOING THE SAME THING WTF

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[–] match@pawb.social 33 points 6 days ago (3 children)

anyone know about jailbreaking printers

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 38 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It absolutely baffles me that there isn't a huge custom printer firmware movement.

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[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 6 days ago
[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I'm curious how this will go down in Australia. Seems like a pretty solid slam dunk refund, oh the product doesn't work as advertised anymore?

Cool, I've had this for 5 years and now I'd also like a full refund under Australian Consumer Law.

Motherfuckers.

(I don't actually own a printer)

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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 6 days ago

Et tu Brute! :(

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 27 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

As much as I love the brand, this was just obviously going to happen. It always happens, it's the eventual outcome. All that is needed is one middle manager wanting to get an extra bones to come up with some short sighted idea that will make a little extra money in the short run and possibly bankrupt the company in the long term.

See Boeing, see Intel, see....

The only way to not have this happen is to get open source hardware. The open source eco system is amazing already but we need more focus on that, hardware. CPU's, Computers, printers, phones, everything

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[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 24 points 5 days ago

Going to be honest, didn't realize my Brother laser printer got firmware updates, lol.

In 7 years I've replaced the toner cartridge once, given that the stater cartridge isn't very full I imagine it'll be awhile before I have to replace it again, at least.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 24 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I really hope Brother is telling the truth!

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[–] ChiefGyk3D@infosec.pub 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I really wish we had open source 2D printers like we have open source 3D printers. That could solve a lot of the problems I think as we could have an open spec to allow people to do whatever they want. My Prusa doesn't care what brand filament I want to use, just as long it can drive it, melt it, and lay it down the way I need. Also why is it my 3D printers are more reliable than my 2D printers most days?

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago

I think its time we deprecate most forms of printing. Clearly corporations cannot be trusted to operate these kinds of companies.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (16 children)

And this is why I'll never connect my working printer to the internet.

Taking a USB stick to it to print is annoying, but fuck this shit.

They're all horrible companies

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[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

This is a total shit move but I have tried many printers and I'm still choosing Brother everytime. Especially on some older generations with copy scan and print. None of the other big brands are worth a shit. They all fail or jam in some form or fashion.

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Give them time and they’ll suck too. Nothing is safe from enshitification, as they’ve just shown us.

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[–] flavonol@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

If it's not already under the umbrella of right to repair, do we now need right to refill?

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This shit happened to me recently. Installed firmware update and immediately my 3rd party toner stops working. Try to find old firmware to roll back to and couldn't locate it anywhere. Found some for other models via Google drive links in Reddit posts, but nothing for my printer.

I replaced the toner with new 3rd party toner which worked. And now I'll never install another firmware update on the printer and should probably block it from the internet.

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