Can I get some data on the "most people are good" bit?
this post was submitted on 29 Sep 2025
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When it comes to people you meet each day (friends, colleagues, schoolmates, ...), are there people among them you'd call 'genuinely evil'? Is it a majority of them?
Daily reminder that 30% of people would vote to bring back chattel slavery if it was convenient.
Yes, but only for foreigners and non whites. Who don't matter obviously
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Honestly? Yeah, it's well over a majority. I wouldn't call them 'purely evil', but 'genuinely evil' is pretty much the norm in society. People just tend to compartmentalize their evil.
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Here's my counter: most people are idiots
That doesn't make them good. Being stupid is a rather limited excuse in the face of such great evils we have today.
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Maybe drop a platform owned by a modern-day facist who keeps using your tweets to train his attempt and cyberdyne?
Mastodon and BlueSky are right there.
Is bluesky worth using? Privately owned and US based so can't be immune to takeover or subpoena
Actual scientifically minded people there. Might as well use it until a takeover happens.
Bsky markets with being decentralised while being not. I mean people can have their own data servers but because of DIDs moderation and other things go back in the hands of the company behind it.
Another red flag is that a main investor is crypto bros and that the ceo or something is crypto friendly but they gave promises not to shove crypto currency up their users.
Is it worth using?
If you use mastodon + bridgy i dont think so
If you want to use it because all your friends are using it: i wont stop you but thats what bridgy is there for
If you dont like platforms where a significant amount is a linux user: then maybe bsky is better
and a + of bsky is that users can make their own algorithms i think easily and that those can get shared.
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Oooh, and here I thought the GOP was a bunch of Nazis fucking children. Guess it's just the algorithm fucking children and opening concentration camps.
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I'm not on any of those platforms, though, and I've been angry since the mid-2000s at least. Maybe I should try to be less angry...? No. No, I don't think that's viable at the moment.
The GOP fuck children, btw.
I think the belief that most people are good actually causes people to attack the ones calling out bad behavior, rather than calling out the bad behavior itself, which is a major contributing cause of many societal issues. Some people are truly just bad people, and we need to learn to accept this. I did after the last few years in politics. Can't be an algorithm when they elected the president. "Stay positive" is bad advice when you're trying to accurately identify and solve a problem where things aren't positive.
Yeah, talk to enough conservatives IRL and you'll know this is bullshit.
Selfish, evil human beings. Whether they realize it or not.
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Nah, I’ve talked to a lot of republicans in real life and almost all of them are just fundamentally bad people who derive joy from hurting and oppressing others.
I legitimately know someone exactly like that. It blows my mind how anybody could be so sociopathic, no human compassion whatsoever, even for the people supposedly nearest & dearest to him.
How I wish that was true.
I’m with you. I mean, its probably the bubble I live in, but I’m so tired of trying to talk to my friends and family about all of this but I’m dismissed as being paranoid or they tell me that Biden was just as bad or frankly most often just some dismissive joke in response.
I’m guessing about as many people care about this as there are who support all of it. The remaining 40-50% is just checked out and thinks this is just politics as usual. That’s my impression anyway.
Which ironically I believe is the problem with Lemmy too. I tend to browse unfiltered/all/top 6 hours (with the exception of .ml) and the amount of doom and gloom on here either depresses me or makes me angry with everything being reported.
I find I have to step away or switch to highly curated stuff that doesn’t have a drop of real world events in it.
There's a certain amount of catharsis in commiseration. Not all the negativity is due to algorithmic curation; a decent amount is legit sadness/anger at the way things are going in the world. Which is valid, imho. But I also understand that it requires some serious hand-curating to get only positive information. Reddit is a lot harder in that regard, as well.
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How could most people be good if they voted for the the pedo king three times?
You'd probably be shocked at how ignorant most Americans are. See those man-in-the-street interviews Mamdani had with NYC Trump voters? They seemed to know nothing about Trump, just had vibes.
If you get your news and political views from FaceBook, you're going to be ignorant as hell. And if you throw Fox News in, you'll come out knowing even less.
On top of all that, over half of Americans top out at a 6th-grade reading level. 20% are flat out illiterate. Can't find the stat again, but an appalling number of us can't follow along in a novel.
We can't fix anything in this country until we fix education. How can we even speak to people about climate change, collapsing ecosystems, repeating 20th century history, anything at all, when they don't have a basic education?
I totally agree that most Trump voters simply know nothing about him. I maintain an acquaintance with a Trump supporter kind of just out of curiosity and they know incredibly little about him as a person, or the things he's doing as president. They're generally just unaware. He didn't even know that Trump abused emergency powers to bypass Congress to impose tariff taxes on Americans.
But that doesn't mean they aren't a bad person. Not engaging with the democracy you live in and ensuring that it remains healthy makes you a bad person, in my opinion. Too many people sacrificed their lives to give us democracy and not engaging responsibly is unbelievably disrespectful and makes you a bad person. Voting for someone without knowing anything about them makes you a bad person.
Most people did not vote which is a different kind of bad
Most people are incoherent and parochial. That's not 'good', but it's certainly not what you see online.
I do very much recommend talking to people. The conversations can be amazing if you hold a straight face.
People are coherent in my experience but parochial is a fair descriptor. Many can talk your ear off about the shiny object they bought, the minutia of the statistics of their team's star player, or the resort they recently visited while having little to no awareness of broader concepts. Some are completely aloof to concepts that don't involve them.
Whether they're good people.. That depends on how you set the standard. I believe that a fairly self absorbed person can still be a good person but there are many who would disagree with that.
I wouldn't say most are good or bad.
But seriously talk to someone at a cafe or bus stop about politics, philosophy, or science. It gets goofy fast.
This, more than anything, is why I stick to the Fediverse. There's some negativity here, but it's organic, and generally not being conjured out of thin air to get me to buy shit.
When I log on to FB to check my DM's, it's very obvious what the algo is doing, and I can't be bothered to indulge it.
Not with this government, 3rd world countries are installing solar while our leader is canceling solar and i cannot get panels
not to mention all the troll bots. If you are arguing online, theres a good chance its just a bot/
I know it's scary
Does it matter that most people are good if most people in power aren't, and they have an army of similar-minded people following their orders?
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It's a nice thought. Absurd, but nice.
Believe that most people are good.
I'd love to if they didn't show their ass IRL as often as online.
I used to believe people were good, but over the years I've just seen worse and worse behavior from the general public to the point that the only way I could possibly believe most people were fundamentally good would be to reject reality.
Or just stay away from algorithmic social media, or maybe i mean ad-based for-profit algorithmic social media.
Lemmy doesn't seem to have a particular bent toward conflict the way that Facebook does (I know they're different in a lot of ways). Bluesky doesn't seem to have it, either, although we could still be in the "bait" phase before they "switch."
You have to discipline Algo like a rigid schoolmarm. You will show me lo-fi cyberpunk synthwave. Darker. Darker!
If you're looking for recent news tempered by the context of US history, look up Prof. Heather Cox Richardson and her offerings. Also MSW Media (specifically Daily Beans ) will at least commiserate with you when you hear the bad news, and will offer some hopeful insights.
Mainstream media is not your friend. Don't give them time except to verify news you think is important enough to verify, and then use multiple sources and cull the specific consistent facts.
No, Simu. You are detached from reality. Stop trying to humanize POS Nazi garbage. Stop trying to reintegrate them. I will NEVER forgive
See I hard coped the "Believe that most people are good" thing, and then I saw numerical data that proves that most people (in the USA), in fact, not only want me to die; but hate most people not like them enough to support a sleazy dictator wanna-be and support a fascist regime, just to destroy the lives of other people who they see as "competition" or "lesser" or "undesirables".
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