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Honestly? Yeah, it's well over a majority. I wouldn't call them 'purely evil', but 'genuinely evil' is pretty much the norm in society. People just tend to compartmentalize their evil.
I feel like this is projection. How tf do you know "well over a majority" of people are compartmentalizing "evil", in a way so good that we can't detect it, but somehow you know this to be true and we should trust you? Why? How? What makes you special in knowing this? I'm sorry if I'm coming off rude, I just don't understand how people can say this with such confidence when they haven't asked "well over a majority" of humans. 😛
In 2024 35% of eligible voters didn't vote and 32% voted for Trump. That's not a perfect measure, but it's about as much of a case as can be made. I'm also far less inclined to move any of those 67% over to the "good" side than to move any of the 32% that voted for Harris to the bad side.
I'm sure each of those people think they're doing good though, rather than purposely "compartmentalizing evil."
In my personal experience, 95+% of people are, at the end of the day, pretty selfish. I don’t mean that they need to be saints, but almost everyone does not want to make small sacrifices to make the world a better place.
I’m talking about people that don’t want to eat less meat or try to consume less, or maybe just give the benefit of the doubt to the other side.
Doesn't make them evil though, just human. The human brain is wired not to make life worse for its host, or its offspring.
It feels so weird to pass by incredible filth on a daily basis, but then get taken aback by a worldview. You must have been through a lot, wish I could help somehow.
Everyone I'm close to knows about the prison industrial complex because we talk to each other. That's how a few of us found out, by knowing people who are activated enough to look into these things and spread the word. As to the rest, I could hit you with a list of things and say "approach the world with intent to confirm this bias" and it would amount to the same thing.
Not being part of the problem takes work, it's true, but wisdom is in knowing people are highly situational, neither inherently good or bad but often entirely unequipped for the world we've created or the heights we've grasped. We're beings of brilliance and kindness but also complacency and disaster. Not evil, but we create many evil situations by accident and shortsightedness.
We live in different countries. I left the US because it was driving me crazy, and my heart goes out to you since I know a lot of people feel that way but don't have a viable exit strategy. I've put in a lot of work to stop participating in an empire of slavery and stolen land, moved back to the land of my grandparents (which has its own terrible history, perfect being the enemy of good as we all know).
I'm against all the buckets. The only bucket we're all in is a gravity well, and we need to act like it if we're not going to hate it every minute.
Maybe we live in different neighborhoods. Most of my neighbors are fine with locking "those people" up, and don't much care what happens to them beyond that.
How do you account for the vast majority of eligible voters either not showing up or voting for Trump? That's about as unbiased a measure as I can think of.
So we're on the same page there.
If it takes work to not be part of the problem than aren't people inherently "bad" until they do the work? I didn't introduce that dialectic to this conversation. Of course throwing everyone into two buckets is inherently going to miss a lot of depth.
I'm not sure it was ever any different.
You've read a fair bit of self-help books or similar haven't you?
There’s not a lot of difference between the average german citizen in 1940 and the average westerner today.
Feels almost like a non sequitur, even if not untrue. I know enough history to know that evil is banal, but that chiefly refers to people who stay silent, choose comfort over justice, and follow unethical orders. It's taking things a ways further to say most people are mostly evil, don't you think?
Comes down to your definition of evil, really. And how comfortable you are calling the majority of people evil - if you aren’t, obviously you’ll jump through a few extra hoops to keep that worldview intact.
Are you only here to sneer? At least do so interestingly.
No need to out yourself :)
You have done that yourself. I stopped to chat with someone else who seems to be in a dark place mentally. You seem only to delight in your darkness. I have marked your tendencies before, and the judgment remains.
Dog, I just don’t find comfort in burying my head in the sand. Humans are inherently capable of great evils - ignoring this fact enables the horrors to continue. But everyone’s always going to think they’re the good guy, so the orphan crushing machine crushes ever faster.
Also, talking like a chode is totally a great way to sound smarter.
Sorry you're not used to people who read, I'm just trying to say I already thought you were an asshole before I talked to you.
And yet you want to preach about other people’s biases? Classy.
Ah yes, the sheer prejudice of noticing how somebody acts and judging them for it. The audacity of remembering. I am truly a hypocrite.
Can you be more specific? What is this referring to?
I tend to cruise /all
It seems as though you somehow made it less specific lol
https://lemmy.world/?dataType=Post&listingType=All&sort=New
An insane mess
If you find it so repulsive, why do you browse all?
Also, why use lemmy.world?
We talked about this over the weekend, you're going to need new material. I browse all because I like weird shit.
Is this a fun conversation to have? I'm happy to talk about anything else if you are.
I generally don't pay attention to usernames, so don't take this personally when I say I literally have no fucking idea who you are.
My b, similar sounding username and it was just 2 days ago. I have been looking at other servers for about a year now, just lazy and slow.
Go outside and start counting all the absolutely unnecessary gas guzzling SUVs. Walk your neighborhood with a trash bag and see what you collect. Ask yourself how many people you know are aware of the prison industrial complex, or would even care if they did know. How many people want subsidized housing in their neighborhoods to address homelessness? How many want some of the funding for their school districts to go to school districts in less fortunate neighborhoods? If there is a local home in obvious disrepair, how many people will gossip or complain to the municipality compared to how many will ask the neighbor if they need help?
Most people are nice. That's not the same as not being evil. Not being evil takes work.
Holy shit dude how do you dupli-post 10 times
Weitd. I'm traveling so it was probably network issues.