Europe

Sure, but then the question is: Winter time or summer time?

I'm not sure if the European people are equally united in this question.

the act of changing clocks twice a year is profoundly fucked up to people’s circadian rhythms .

as well as the government deciding for you, what time it is, is kind of orwellian when i think about it.

i want my body to adapt naturally to the sync of the sun, i think we all could use a little bit more nature.

As a programmer, I would never put anything except UTC or Unix time into a computer program or database. The front end can show the user whatever localized bullshit they want to see.

If the EU abolishes DST in its member states, there won't be any patches or updates necessary to software out there. The timezone database will simply be updated to reflect the change of policy and bam, once your system has the new tzdata, restart your apps and they will automatically understand it. This is not like the Y2K bug that needed actual patches.

I think keeping summertime is the better option. Having a bit of sunlight when you come home from school or work in winter would be priceless. Even if it means darker mornings.

This is why I doubt we'll get rid of it. A majority of people seem to dislike dst but not for the same reasons. I get up around 6. That already means about 3 hours of darkness during winter mornings as is. And in the afternoon I'm indoors anyway because it's cold. It'd be more convenient for me to sacrifice an hour of daylight on summer evenings. Then again the sun rising around 4 would be kind of a waste.

Hi, I'm a software developer. DST is a nightmare because it makes the clock jump (skip an hour in one direction, meaning there are wall clock times which don't exist, or backwards, meaning there are wall clock times that exist twice). I don't care whether we will settle on summer or winter time but please, just don't make it jump.

Not sure what programmers have to say about this though.

DST is a major pain in the butt, getting rid of it simplifies a lot of things. Only problem is that everything still needs to take DST into account for all of history.

WWIII and no time to deprogram the military infrastructure aka MaaS to not adjust savings time.

Changing working hours would be decided by individual businesses and inconsistencies on this would be a logistical nightmare. Delivery of materials are suddenly an hour later and you have a bunch of people standing around with nothing to do. Or maybe it's earlier than usual and it comes before your business is open.

Signage about business hours would have to be changed twice per year. A customer not aware of the change in business hours may show up too early or two late.

And it would be an insane amount of work to change all the schedules of automated systems to conform with business hour changes that happen twice per year.

So to avoid these kinds of problems you need the entire society to change their schedules consistently. It's easier to change the clocks than to change everything other than the clocks.

That's true, no-one likes it. But the attempts to end it got stuck on democracy, unfortunately. People were inable to get behind one solution. Some countries prefered to keep the natural time, some wanted the summer time. There are reasons for both approaches and lots and lots of emotions. It was unreasonable to let different EU countries addopt different time systems, so the whole idea to get rid of the time changes was scrapped.

Who gives a fuck about ohio?

in winter you go to work in the dark and come home in the dark, meaning you don't see any daylight apart from at weekends,

That's already my reality as it stands