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[–] Elbow1240@lemmy.zip 185 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If the app is defective, then that's on the Trump admin for using it to communicate sensitive information.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 54 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Yeah, it is defective... or at least not up to the task of security for classified information... not to mention not compliant with record keeping laws, that's the whole fricking point.

The big play they are trying is to put the emphasis of the fail on adding the journalist... that wasn't the crime, it was a demonstration of why it is a crime, and it is how he got caught. Using signal for war/attack plans was the crime.

[–] forked_bytes@lemm.ee 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The real crime was killing innocent civilians in Yemen but I guess nobody cares.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 10 points 2 days ago

Well that too, but sadly we are at the point where that is normal and goes back several administrations. The signal usage for military communications reaching public knowledge is something unique to this situation (of which i won't fully discount the possibility that it may indeed have started prior to this administration)

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[–] loutr@jlai.lu 14 points 2 days ago

The app itself and its protocol are very secure. It's no wonder WhatsApp chose to implement it instead of baking their own. The issue here is that Signal is not designed to be used for top secret stuff, where adversaries with practically unlimited resources will specifically target your device. There's no auditing features, there's no safeguard if you add a group member by mistake, ...

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 7 points 2 days ago

Evidence is out there in the papers and the internet for everyone to see, next they deny the report and the texts are real despite previously acknowledging them and claiming that nothing of importance was discussed.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago
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[–] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Yes but accountability doesn't exist for him. Ever. For some fuckin reason.

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 68 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

That didn't happen.

And if it did, it wasn't that bad.

And if it was, that's not a big deal.

And if it is, that's not my fault. <- You are here

And if it was, I didn't mean it.

And if I did, you deserved it.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You fool he's playing two of these steps at once. Both step 4 and step 1. Still claiming it was a "witch hunt" while also making it not his fault. 100 quadtrabillion IQ (a very object way to measure intellect) move you liberal/LEFTIST/sjw wokie. Check mate, and GOOOOOOOOAAALLL. Hahahaha.

I'm so sorry.

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You forgot the whining about DEI.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I obviously only forgot because the DEI hire I hired the last time he was president didn't sit behind me reminding me, which is Joe Biden's fault. Whoever the 45th president was obviously screwed up the deal.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

In this case Trump doesn't use computers, doesn't know how to use a smartphone, probably doesn't know what an app is or what open source means or what end-to-end encryption means. So basically be has no conceptual basis to even form a passable understanding of what this scandal is about, let alone form a coherent opinion, and he probably lost patience early on when someone tried to explain it to him.

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A witch hunt is when you don't know for sure if anyone did anything wrong. Not when you have physical evidence of exactly who did exactly what wrong. That's just a "case" then.

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 days ago

what a fucking orange cunt

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ok. Break into my Signal chats, without access to my phone. Go.

Oh wait: you can’t.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 17 points 2 days ago

The defect he's searching for is a back door. Not gonna happen. Everyone, please use and support Signal, says the guy who has been getting people on Signal since Snowden rec'd it in 2015 (https://www.tomshardware.com/news/edward-snowden-favorite-security-tools,30507.html). I had to look it up.

The other tools in this recommendation: Tor OTR TAILS Qubes OS

I'll leave it to others to comment on the viability of the rest, and Signal has gotten an enormous 'signal boost' from Signalgate, so I'll count that as a win.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is a reasonable reply to a nonsense statement. Signal is plenty secure for us and whatever we need to do with it. It is not secure enough, nor authorized, for classified information.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I dunno if I would consider “user error” as a security flaw in the software.

[–] feannag@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

No, but it still isn't secure enough for classified information. The protocol is probably fine, but the weak point is the device. And the device can be compromised. Devices rated for classified systems never touch the public internet which makes them significantly less susceptible to being compromised.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago
[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Pentagon-wide advisory sent to staffers on March 18 — less than a week before the screwup went public — explicitly warned against using Signal for any sharing of information, classified or not.

The advisory claimed that a "vulnerability has been identified in the Signal messenger application," and that Russian hacking groups were "targeting Signal Messenger to spy on persons of interest" (a Signal spokesperson told NPR that the company wasn't "aware of any vulnerabilities or supposed ones that we haven't addressed publicly.")

https://futurism.com/the-byte/pentagon-issued-warning-signal-messaging

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

That’s not the fucking defect in all of this.

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago

Trumps brain is defective.

The only thing that is defective is the entire administration.

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago

Trump is an idiot.

[–] Zenodyne@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

I didn’t wanna sound like a conspiracy theorist, but as soon as the news dropped last week about this, I did have the thought, “Maybe this is all a stunt to try and get Signal banned.”

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Old man is old and confused, more at 11

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Good. He's overusing his "witch hunt" rhetoric, in a situation where it's unusually easy for anybody to verify the details for oneself.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago
[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears

[–] Sgarcnl@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Why did he miss

[–] JailElonMusk@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Could it just be that their brains are defective?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well SecDef is a current or former alcoholic, so.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

He still is, but he used to be too

[–] st3ph3n@midwest.social 6 points 2 days ago

Everything's a witch hunt with this motherfucker.

The words of a man who doesn’t understand FOSS.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Sigh, they're gonna go after encrypted messaging next.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

Sounds like this needs to be a daily headline. Anything that makes the Orange Turd uncomfortable is a good thing.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

Dementia logic

[–] Numinous_Ylem@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Lies and bullshit and lies and insults and bullshit and more bullshit. Anything that comes out of his mouth is one of those three; whatever is convenient at the time.

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

I guess I'll look for some guys on the street to invite them to trash my place and then sue my landlord for providing an defective door... 🤣

So he admits to being a witch...

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 2 points 2 days ago

Lol this guy doesn't know what signal is.

[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

If you could please explain how that is any better..

[–] KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee 1 points 19 hours ago

Trump lies. Daily. On the hour. Film at 11:00.

[–] Azwing@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Orange man brain box defective.

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

CSI Pentagon: Defective Trump

[–] griff@lemmings.world 1 points 2 days ago

Trunk looks more & more like a witch these days

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