To be fair, everyone's views are shaped by propaganda of some kind, it's quite literally unavoidable if you exist within any society. Lots of people like to think that their ideas are just the product of their own independent thinking, but that isn't really how people work.
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The key is to be constantly aware of it. Never follow someone blindly.
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You're not wrong. I like to think I'm immune to proponganda because I'm anarchist but it's pretty obvious that I can be fooled just as easily as anyone by the pretense of speaking truth to power
My then history teacher said everyone is affected by propaganda, even trained and studied individuals like him. To think you are immune to influence from other people is very naive.
I've told co-workers that a person's resilience against propaganda is a spectrum. No one is completely immune, but you can approach high levels of resilience at the cost of your sanity.
That's me. I'm naive af
its one thing to have different kinds of propaganda , but RW only consume 1 kind of pure propaganda as thier sole source of information.
While that is true, some propaganda is definitely more harmful while some others are relatively harmless.
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ML is basically the same too.
whipping out my Horseshoe Theory graph
So, as you can see, the tips of the horseshoe are where the Russian Propaganda lives.
Hey horseshoe theory, wanna... touch tips?
I prefer the Pac-Man interpretation
So I've seen.
Yeah, let's just ignore the right-wing think tanks, the majority of conservative/MAGA influencers who aren't on Russia's payroll, and right-wing "news" organizations. It's totally just Russia and not right-wingers trying to destroy the country to grab all the power for themselves...
If you look into it an amazing amount of them are further funded by Russia. Not solely but enough to make them bigger than they'd be otherwise.
If you look into it an amazing amount of them are further funded by Russia.
You seem to know more than me based on your response. You are claiming an amazing amount are funded by Russia, are there any decently recent sources which support your claim that you can direct me to? Do these people also take money from US-based right-wing organizations?
What's so insidious about russia's psiop over the last few decades is that all they've done is gently nudge the dial. They've sown distrust of traditional media and of democratic institutions, they've polarised discourse to that communities that mostly rubbed alongside one another reasonably well now are so idealogically opposed to each other that the middle ground has evaporated.
And if you think "haha stupid MAGAs" falling for propaganda, I got news for you buddy, you've fallen for it too.
You've fallen for propaganda that convinces you that there is an external enemy to worry about instead of actually looking at the situation critically. Right-wing organizations drive right-wing talking points.
Theyβve sown distrust of traditional media and of democratic institutions
Pretty sure they did that to themselves. I didn't need Russia feeding me propaganda to see through the bullshit, and many others reached that conclusion on their own. The Fairness Doctrine being repealed is one big reason why traditional media failed. Russia didn't do that.
theyβve polarised discourse to that communities that mostly rubbed alongside one another reasonably well now are so idealogically opposed to each other that the middle ground has evaporated.
Right-wingers and liberals alike have polarized discourse. Leftists aren't innocent either, especially MLs (many of whom seem to be biased towards Russia), but there are plenty of leftists I have interacted with or witnessed that are exceedingly fair, empathetic, and human.
Liberals blame anybody to the left of them for not falling in line, constantly mock or berate them for demanding better, and do absolutely nothing meaningful to improve their preferred party or seriously advocate for greatly improving the human condition in America. As for the right, we all know what they do.
middle ground has evaporated.
Politics and governance shouldn't be a game of tug of war where the Republicans have a monster truck pulling their side and Democrats are pretending to hold the rope on their side. It shouldn't be a tug of war game at all - that is what breeds polarization. It shouldn't surprise anyone that a two-party system and biased, partisan "news" (that is literally entertainment) results in polarization.
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So 80% of lemmy.ml users?
Probably not 80% of their users, but definitely the majority of the active ones.
THE LARGEST MOST COMMONLY WATCHED BEST FUNDED MEDIA OUTLET ISNT MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!1!
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Im seeing this just after having a while conversation about conservative Christians making a big deal about 'finding truth in faith' after the Kirk shooting and this feels similar to me
There's this clear implication that the 'truth' can only be found through your ideological worldview, and a complete abandoning of any attempt at justifying or supporting it through reason. Any piece of information that's misaligned is dismissed as propaganda - but what's especially annoying is that it doesn't even have to be coherently opposed to truth but merely distracting from what's supposedly more important.
Americans are one of the most propagandized populations on the planet - but I wouldn't even put Russia in the top 5 sources of it.
russia is behind most of the propaganda, and they do it to both sides too. its one of thier core strategies to distract west from russias geopolitical aspirations. i think russia has USA beat on being propagandized, usa is probably 2ND, if at most 3rd.
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I personally like to listen to both sides of the story so that I can absorb 2x the disinformation
They cancel each other out if you're lucky
It depends on the phase. Sometimes you get constructive interference and they add up instead.
This is true. Also there are zero mainstream media outlets that are not propaganda of some kind or another at this point. When you intentionally read all kinds of biased news it becomes more and more obvious.
TBH, Rupert Murdock HELPED Putin refine/put RT on steroids. He was marketing his propaganda (division) here in the USA since Reagan let him through the door. Russian extras are just a bump up in the last 10-15 years.
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I only trust cats :3
I see you're in the (warm furry pockets) of big cat!
Damn... I'm desperate, but even I wouldn't suck that
Some feel special for being contrarian!
I mean, sure, like a year ago but at this point I also don't trust what the government and mainstream media say.
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