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[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 86 points 1 month ago (8 children)

To be fair, everyone's views are shaped by propaganda of some kind, it's quite literally unavoidable if you exist within any society. Lots of people like to think that their ideas are just the product of their own independent thinking, but that isn't really how people work.

[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The key is to be constantly aware of it. Never follow someone blindly.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's true, but you still follow some propaganda. You are aware of it, great, but what's the difference between someone following the propaganda being aware of it and someone following it blindly?

[–] Zink@programming.dev 22 points 1 month ago

Intent, mindfulness, and informed decision making?

I mean, knowing that something is technically propaganda does not make it wrong or make it taboo to repeat. The word has a negative connotation because it's typically used to describe the "other" guys, sure, but its meaning is very broad.

If I were to say the phrase "fuck Nestle" or even just the term "DeGoogle" one could correctly label those as anti-corporate propaganda with an agenda to harm the interests of an untold number of shareholders. Heck, thanks to broadly diversified 401k investment fund options, I am probably one of them and future me could lose entire dollars.

Is anybody on Lemmy going to shake their finger at me for repeating those two pieces of targeted, agenda-driven propaganda though? I certainly don't feel icky for saying it. I bet I could even say something negative about the president of the united states without feeling embarrassed. :]

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

There’s a fine line between "not believing that propaganda" and "being a conspiracy theorist"

Like "Project Prism"

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're not wrong. I like to think I'm immune to proponganda because I'm anarchist but it's pretty obvious that I can be fooled just as easily as anyone by the pretense of speaking truth to power

[–] safesyrup@feddit.org 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My then history teacher said everyone is affected by propaganda, even trained and studied individuals like him. To think you are immune to influence from other people is very naive.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

That's me. I'm naive af

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

I've told co-workers that a person's resilience against propaganda is a spectrum. No one is completely immune, but you can approach high levels of resilience at the cost of your sanity.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, but most propaganda is not specifically fascist in nature.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is there propaganda that is fascist in nature? It's bad propaganda then. Can you give an example? Propaganda should always be for all good and everyone's happiness. Specifics don't matter, you can bring the followers wherever you want later.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

...yes. you have access to search engines

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

While that is true, some propaganda is definitely more harmful while some others are relatively harmless.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

its one thing to have different kinds of propaganda , but RW only consume 1 kind of pure propaganda as thier sole source of information.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I am not going to believe your propaganda! My pristine, untainted thoughts won't take this slander. /s

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

For sure, but the Kremlin is like Sauron, and most other propaganda is about which stew is best.