Nice that they have so clearly broadcasted their double standards
It demonstrates that rational people should not attempt to compromise with these cultists and prioritise blocking and removal. They are not reliable or consistent.
this post was submitted on 13 Sep 2025
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Not that hypocrisy carries any weight on the right, but for those who are keeping score. (alt version in body)
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For those who don't find "far-right" to be an applicable descriptor with what is known currently, I acknowledge that the meme creator could have been more precise with their word choice. However, I feel the difference is academic:
We can replace “far right” with the easily verified “not leftist” without changing the meme whatsoever, primarily because the meme is about Nancy Mace and her mercurial, disingenuous opinion, not (directly) about the shooter.
Edit - I modified it, though I still find it to be a distinction without a difference - alt version for those who prefer (whoops missed one first time)
Nobody moral (who believed, at the very least, in the virtue of honesty) or rational ever gave them anything but the middle finger. But America was cooked from the get go, and with a national ethos similar to that of a greedy, unstable rapist, Trump, MAGA and everything we're seeing now were inevitable.
I was just thinking about how i often fail to remember that this country was founded on the genocide of its prior inhabitants. We are the descendants of those responsible for that genocide. There is plenty of toxicity that got passed along the generations leading us here and it doesn't seem likely it's gonna go away.
Yep. And it goes back further. The religious freedom the Puritans wanted was essentially to be able to be more authoritarian.
Edited to add - in case this wasn't blunt enough, just like conservatives have been for my entire life; the freedom they want on any given axis is actually the freedom to control others on that same axis.
There was a comedian that once said "remember, America is a country that was founded by people that were too uptight for England."
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Wasn't he a Mormon? Didn't he already find Jesus Christ? It didn't seem to make a difference at all...
Mormons aren't Christians, at least according to those Christians who hate Mormons. They might believe in Jesus Christ but they didn't find him. This might seem like a distinction without a difference but only because it is.
Took me longer than I care to admit 😅
sorry for my lack of red circles
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Ypu are mistaken as to how that argument goes.
The idea is that Christianity is a separate faith from Judaism because they have an entirely different set of texts and a different view of the relationship with God and what is expected of the faithful.
Islam is a separate faith of Christianity and Judaism as it too has additional texts and a different perspective on God than what Judaism and Christianity has (which again differ themselves).
Thus LDS is a different faith because it has a wholly new set of texts, it has a radically different view of the relationship with God than every other Abrahamic faith, and we have a lot of evidence that suggests Joseph Smith was outright fabricating everything. That's a critical difference and suggests it should be seen as something else following the same standards applied to all otherAbrahamic faiths.
I wouldn't say "wholly new set," more like "additional set."
The KJB is a foundation of their theology and taught in all their churches.
And yeah, he was making everything up; that's how you start any religion. :)
All of Smith’s texts are wholly new fabricated by him.
The fact is we don’t have the quantity of evidence for the fabrication of most faiths to the extent we have for LDS.
True, it's relatively new compared to the others.
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He doesn’t know the right Jesus. There are too many Jesus’s and everyone thinks their Jesus is the right one.
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So when they finally caught the shooter, I exclaimed "oh thank god he's white" and did a fist pump.
Everyone in the office break room turned, looked at me, noted that I'm brown and then just nodded safely. A couple dudes smiled in solidarity.
Didn't we already know that from the released footage.
I suspected he would be right wing as well, after all they're the ones with all of the guns and both people who tried to assassinate trump were right wing, which is why the republicans immediately stopped to talking about them, and trump stopped wearing his stupid bed sheet of a bandage.
Bring back? Isn’t Utah one of the fuckwit medieval states (I mean the whole country is rotten but still) that still has bloodlust punishment?
And yet, a fascist was still eradicated! Are you trying to tell me murdering murderers doesn't prevent murders?
Who knew!?
Man creates state.
State creates monster.
Man kills monster.
State kills man.
-Thus Spoke Magathustra
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The far-right stuff isn't proven yet. He just seems terminally online.
Bare minimum he was a maga kid in a maga family, and that's the reason for her change of tone. None of the other stuff is relevant to the point here.
Right. I see people here, who I share a lot of the same views with, as doing the same as the extreme right and just running with whatever is trending and not actually looking for the truth.
We can’t trust anything that is said by the media until we learn the actual full details.
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Nothing is proven yet for anything, even that he was the shooter.
That said - these are all very specific references for a very specific community, even down to his Halloween costumes.
I'd be absolutely shocked if he held any belief that hinted toward the actual left.
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He's a groyper, who is arguing he's not far right ?
You know it's bad enough that we have Nazis again for some reason. But worst of all they are now super duper cringe. I bet actual Nazis refuse to hang out with them because they're so embarrassing.
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No, that’s NOT what he’d want. He’d want us to bail him out: https://xcancel.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1587127536122732544
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I’m just wondering if the TPUSA folks are gonna get even with Nick Fuentes or if they are going to let the groypers get away with it like the little bitches they are.
Him being killed by gang violence right after saying "including gang violence" is just the cherry on top.
https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-suspect-is-a-gun-loving-trump-supporter/ This explained pretty well what the references are. The Bella ciao etc. were used ironically, but I’m not seeing this being reported anywhere else.
They will let Fuentes get away with it an just deny the truth.
Not that hypocrisy carries any weight on the right, but for those who are keeping score.
For a fascist, overt hypocrisy is a sign of strength.
The sheep are bound by their previous statements. The lions do whatever they want.
When you accuse a fascist if hypocrisy, you are giving them a big, big compliment.
Do we have any evidence of his political views from a named source that is verified to have been in close contact with him before the shooting?
Is that a requirement for a meme about Nancy Mace's abrupt about-face? It seems a bit rigorous for a community where we share mostly regurgitated memes and screenshots.
I feel pretty satisfied. The viewer can make up their own mind, or find their own sources.
Edit: We can replace "far right" with the easily verified "not leftist" without changing the meme whatsoever, primarily because the meme is about Nancy Mace and her mercurial, disingenuous opinion, not (directly) about the shooter.
I think we should be careful promoting any claims as to why he killed Kirk. The narrative surrounding the Columbine school shooting was that the killers were loner loser nerds who were bullied and acting in revenge. The FBI profile released years later suggested they were bullies, weren't popular nor unpopular and one of the killers likely had ASPD and would have potentially killed people in other situations.
We should be very careful how we promote the views of people involved in this crime until we know why he did it.
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Is there some kind of “online discourse” about using the term far right instead of non left? That’s ridiculous.
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Anyone else finds the casing engraving situation to be a bit strange?
From a CNN article:
Officials who spoke during a news conference Friday did not address whether the inscriptions included references to trans people, but none of the writings they described appear to have any connection to that community. One law enforcement source told CNN that some of the markings instead appear to be a reference to video games.
Seems to me like they have no idea what they mean? Why have they not shared the actual engravings? They did that for the not-Luigi shooting, so I wonder what's different.
Anyone else finds the casing engraving situation to be a bit strange?
This is the best explanation I've seen (and I do think the engravings are shared out there somewhere)
I'm not steeped in internet culture enough to have known all this Groyper stuff before, though I'd heard the term. However, this has the ring of truth to me, and is consistent with other Groyper descriptions I've seen.
This is the explanation I'm seeing most often outside mainstream media where they are too busy running around trying to analyze it and speak truthfully about his life without getting fired.
More or less the same point but with more information here: https://www.tiktok.com/@aidanetcetera/video/7549640789652032790
Just when you think the US Congress could stoop no lower than Marjorie Taylor Greene, Nancy Mace steps up to the plate and hits it way out of the park.
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Bring back? Do you currently not have the death penalty? That’s blowing my mind. I had no idea that was abolished in the US.
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I think she was expecting a brown person to be the shooter and then she saw the news.
Or trans. I think they all were really, really hoping it was going to turn out to be a trans person.
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