Really crazy how little the censoring is too. Like how was the right crying about censorship just a few years ago to the point that they changed every websites rules. Now they're getting people fired and making tip line to attack anyone saying anything and instead of rallying I see only a few places online making any noise about the censorship. Lots of jokes about Charlie but no real push at the fact these fuck heads are violating the freedom of speech Charlie supposedly fought for
this post was submitted on 12 Sep 2025
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Exactly my point. God damn there is so much material that can be created. But there's no channels. Why did the left kneecap itself
Because the left has been holding onto the false hope that things still work like they did up until the 2000s. The left hopes that someday we can return to a place where we disagree with each other but we can work toward a compromise that works for everyone. Then the 2000s hit and both sides began to move away from the center until they're not able to even communicate with each other in good faith. Now the right wants to perpetrate a genocide and the left is too worried about breaking the rules
both sides began to move away from the center until they're not able to even communicate with each other in good faith
I don't necessarily agree with this point. The right has moved much further from the center, and a decent chunk of the left has let themselves be dragged halfway there in the wake. A lot of American 'liberals' are considered right wing in other countries (especially European countries). That's always been true to a degree. But now it's becoming more pronounced. But to add extra noise, there's a portion of the left who are not more firebrand and have pulled further to the left. So the spread of 'liberals' goes a long way across the spectrum. Which also explains some of the fragmentation.
I agree with you, I was vague and that came across as a bit of a both sides argument. My bad.
It's not a spread, it's a decimation of the left.
I'm actually leaning towards the idea that we were herded here, away from the digital public squares. We're all now in a very small corner making it easier for private interests to manipulate our spaces with their causes and let's those interests unfettered access to the public. My main social media spaces are filled with people spreading all kinds of crazy shit and that's no push back, no fact checking no other side showing what is wrong
Because they are embracing fascism, which is about consolidating power and weaponizing society against their opposition.
Holy shit you're right...these whiny bitches cried so goddamn hard about "cancel culture"
I’ll say it, don’t decry political violence, it should just be done to an elected official or fascist leader. If all else fails democratically, that’s your duty. But not against a private citizen. I would much have preferred to have heard Charlie Kirk died of auto erotic asphixiation, while wearing a Wonder Woman costume and jerking off to gay porn. He was a dirtbag, and I’m glad hes gone but this means his message will live on
This is how I feel too. Technically, he was exercising a right of free speech. And he absolutely deserved a good punch, but he didn't deserve to be killed for it.
If it had been someone in power who had a direct hand in the cruelty they are causing immigrants and other struggling communities, I would feel much differently about the situation.
I know for many that seems like a dumb distinction, but when it comes to something as important as free speech, I think it does matter.
The US version of “free speech” is broken. It’s not about the freedom to express yourself or share thoughts and ideas, it’s about being able to harm, vilify, slander, and control others with impunity. Most other countries with freedom of expression have corrected this oversight, and hate speech, slander, libel and the like are not tolerated. Or less tolerated, at least. The US has the intentionally broken, abusive neoliberal version of this. Outright lying about others is allowed in the US, and because the only remedy is civil instead of criminal, it naturally favors those with wealth and power.
Nah I'm pro-violence. This was an amazing thing that happened and I'm still riding the high days later.
It was so satisfying. He was a Nazi, and good riddance.
When you spent your entire life irl shitposting, don’t be surprised if someone shitpost you back with a fist or bullet…
Crazy stuff, coming from a sexual predator.
He jerked himself off in front of a couple of women. It was defo inappropriate, but calling him a "predator" is fucking psychotic. Comparing him to rapists and predators like Weinstein or Diddy cheapens their crimes and invalidates the trauma they caused. It's like equating a petty thief with a health insurance CEO, or Al Frankens' "hover hands" to Trumps pedophilia and dozens of sexual assaults.
None of the hundreds of female comedians and actresses he's worked with have ever said he treated them inappropriately.
I agree with your first part, your second part is wrong.
The ladies that made the accusations against him, which he confirmed were all true, were up-and-coming comedians.
They said because he was in a position of power they felt like they couldn't say no to his request.
To his credit, he validated every woman that made an accusation. He also said he didn't realize the women were saying yes because of the implication if they said no. I tend to believe his story because after the women came forward, he admitted what happened, and the allegations stopped, no one else came forward. That seems to me like a guy that used bad judgement and didn't understand the power he had.
I think him taking a timeout, realizing that women have a whole different set of circumstances to deal with that guys don't, and reflecting on that was warranted. I don't think he needs to be shunned forever.
Everybody deserves a chance to course correct after repenting for mistakes. Denying redemption is downright psychotic. You don't have to forgive or even forget, but if you don't acknowledge the work someone does in reparation, you yourself are broken.
The second part is not wrong. Other than those 2 (3?) that accused him, none of the other hundreds of female comedians and actresses who have worked with him over the previous decades have said anything negative about his behavior.
Your first statement says none. Your second statement says none except for the ones that did, that's not the same thing.
An accurate sentence would be:
Besides the five women that accused him, no other female comedian or actress he's worked with have said anything negative about him.
But, to say no female comedian has complained is just false, 4 of them weren't anonymous.
If a guy jerked themselves off in front of you, in a work situation, where there were more senior than you how would you feel?
Yes there’s grades of sexual predators, they’re still all predators, no-one is comparing here.
How it would make me feel is irrelevant. The problem is that one can't tell for sure how the subordinate will really feel because they're pressured into faking enthusiasm.
Don’t make excuses for this man. He used his power over, as a successful comedian with a lot of control in the industry, to force sexual acts on unwilling women who feared for their careers. Then tried to justify it on a technicality. It’s creepy, it’s psychotic, and he should be on a list for it.
It would be adjacent to a prison guard dropping trow and making the inmates in his care watch him jerk off to them, their bodies, their presence. The guard in that scenario shouldn’t keep his job either. Or should he? He didn’t touch them right? He only touched himself, right? So that guard should keep his job, by your logic.
Louis had power over. Maybe not the same kind of power over but it was power. And he used it, and them, in a foul manner deserving of dismissal and possibly litigation.
It certainly puts his bit about men being the scariest thing for women in the dating world into perspective.
He abused his position of power for his own sexual gratification. That's the definition of predatory behaviour.
What a weird fucking thing to jump so quickly to defend…
Wrong room.
We can compare apples to oranges because they're both fruits, but the phrase exists for a reason. This is a predominantly US community of which all are highly strung more than their usual shit right now, and you're coming in unusually hostile as though you have a stake in the matter of this specific subject.
Chill out. Doesn't mean you're wrong, but read the room and ask yourself if it's worth the energy. You wint
Edit: I mean, fuck. Look at my comment. And I was putting shit on the guy... They don't know what they want. Give em a few days.
Was he a predator? Thought he was just a creep
Depends on how you define your words. He consentually jerked off in front of female colleagues. He did not realize his position of power and tried to make things right. If this full fills your definition of predator than yes.
Yea that doesn't. He's just a creep. Even then barely a creep just an old guy being a pervert.
Old Charlie before he reached his personal turning point used to like to talk about the Great Replacement, which is a white supremacist theory that says that white people are being replaced by non white people, mostly Muslims, and call it "white genocide". He also likes to talk about "prowling blacks" and a whole lot of other racist shit.
Just because he didn't wear a hood and have a swastika tattoo doesn't make him any less of a Nazi. Good riddance.
Another very important aspect of great replacement conspiracy (and most conspiracy theories, tbh) is that the Jews are behind it. Kirk was unsurprisingly extremely antisemitic as well.
Did he said this?
Nah he was too busy masturbating in front of his support act
It's from one of his bits. Funny shtick.
"my kid has a peanut allergy, so of course I'm very careful about what I feed her. Of course I am..."
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhzi3Ah3WAA
(I got the quote wrong, but you get it)
You'd waste a bullet of a TV star and not any one more deserving!?