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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 177 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But Charlie Kirk was fine commenting fucked up stuff about Paul Pelosi's attack? Including saying we should bail out the attacker that tried to murder him?

I'm so sick of this DARVO bullshit at a national level.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But Charlie Kirk was fine commenting fucked up stuff about Paul Pelosi’s attack?

More critically, Joe Biden and his DOJ were fine enough with it not to bother pursuing the fascist hate-mongers flinging smears. Democrats had the power to do something and choose to do nothing.

I’m so sick of this DARVO bullshit at a national level.

We still have a multitude of Democrats in gubernatorial office and large paramilitary police forces which could be deployed to crack down on fascist media, financiers, and militant agitators. A few of them have been quite outspoken in their commitment to defending marginalized people from the national fascist movement (Pritsker in Illinois, Evers in Wisconsin, and Walz in Minnesota).

But if you want the DARVO to stop, there's got to be some kind of price for it. National media isn't stepping up. If anything, they're more than happy to play along and feed on it. Too many Dems (Gavin Newsom and Chuck Schumer most vulgarly) seem ready to roll over and let Republicans kick them. Gotta push back and start feeding them their own knuckle sandwiches or all you get is bolder bullies.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

National media isn’t stepping up. If anything, they’re more than happy to play along and feed on it.

I agree with what you said, I just want to dig down a little deeper into how right you are about this specific point:

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This is from Ezra Klein at the NYT who, just a few days ago, was chiding the Democrats about how ineffective they are, how they needed to force a government shutdown and surely the media would report on it fairly and listen to and promote the Democrat's message, should they do this. He literally titled his piece "Stop Acting Like This Is Normal."

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What a crock of shit. Eat shit, Ezra Klein. This is you, literally pretending that the horrible gaslighting and bad faith argumentation that Charlie Kirk took part in was normal. Klein, I hope you rot with gonorrhea in hell.

[–] shani66@ani.social 1 points 13 hours ago

It's not even the media proper! So many supposed liberals are acting like he didn't deserve it, it makes my blood boil.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

flinging smears.

This is you disparaging the First Amendment, not defending it. There's a good reason they weren't prosecuted for that.

What's the point of opposing MAGA policies when you pine for them yourself?

[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 103 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

This heavy handed reaction is brought to you by the Group of Pedophiles trying to distract you from the fact that they voted to block the release of the Epstein files to protect their pedo king. And it shows how they’ve been the snowflakes all along

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When we're dealing with these pedos, "snowflakes" just doesn't go far enough. These are pedo fascists. Let that sink in for a second. Fascists who are pedophiles.

For as much shit as Hitler did, and rightfully called out on, I can't remember ANYONE ever implying that Hitler was a pedophile. And if he ever had been, you KNOW that would be well known! We know everything else he was into. You know, like genocide, racism, power grabs, ect.

We're living in a country where literal Hitler would have the moral high ground over our current president in at least one area.

Like I said earlier. Let that sink in.

[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago

Really excellent way of putting it

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago

Wow, this is wildly incorrect. Misinformation even...they are more of Gang Of Paedophiles than a group because of their nefarious actions. Get it right next time!!

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 day ago

Free speech? Nope. Only for republicans

Wednesday: "Charlie Kirk was a martyr for free speech

Thursday: "Anybody that says anything I believe is mean is a terrorist that will have their visa revoked!"

Also Thursday: "By spreading his message of exclusion and hate, Charlie Kirk was equivalent to MLK spreading a message of equality and love.

Hot fucking take here. Charlie Kirk was an insufferable asshole, but I don't support murder and there is no justification for him being assassinated. People are free to disagree, but I believe ignoring the rule of law when it's convenient is never anything but a slippery slope. Especially right now.

The fact that Kirk is being turned into a martyr by the right is probably the least surprising thing to happen since that birthday book confirmed what we all already knew about Trump. So of course they want to honor their martyr for free speech by threatening to punish anyone who disagrees with the narrative they're trying to create.

That's to be expected when you believe in a natural hierarchy and order that allows you, and only you make the rules and decide how they're applied. Some people count and some people don't. But that's not how the rule of law works, and again nobody likes a slippery slope.

This is exactly why I believe it's very important that we all acknowledge Charlie Kirk was an insufferable asshole. I get that it's in bad taste and poor manners to speak ill of the dead. But manners and taste aren't the rule of law, and free speech isn't your personal snowflake shield. So fuck off with that bullshit.

Insufferable assholes don't deserve to be murdered for being insufferable assholes, but they also don't deserve statues that make them out to be something they weren't. He made his own choices for how he wanted to be remembered, so stop trying to re-write history. If you want to create a statue of a puckered asshole and dedicate it to Charlie Kirk I guess I can't argue with that.

[–] dissentiate@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 1 points 12 hours ago

Its working brilliantly.

[–] dalekcaan@feddit.nl 15 points 1 day ago

"Killing Charlie Kirk was an assault on freedom of speech. NOW STOP TALKING ABOUT IT OR I'LL DEPORT YOU."

[–] acme401@lemmy.world 14 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck Charlie Kirk. Gargle my balls.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 2 points 12 hours ago

i support this message.

[–] firewyre@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Fuck all of these people, every last one

[–] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 day ago

This is actually a continuation, they revoked vistas from those involved or commenting on pro-Palestine protests

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 12 points 18 hours ago

This is what they mean by freedom of speech, right?

[–] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

Dumbass said he was okay with some people dying to gun violence so that we can keep the 2nd amendment.

Are you fucking MAGAt morons ok with NOT following along with what that dumbass said??? He didn't specify WHO the violence should happen to just that it was okay.

[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago

We are witnessing rights being taken away at a historic level. The maga movement has successfully brainwashed half if not more of the us population. We are walking backwards at a horrific pace. Hate, violence, greed and pedophilia are all on the table. Maga is ruining America.

I wish he could die again.

[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I hope many US lefties are taking this time to reassess their beliefs on gun ownership and what that means in current day America. We're not too far off from political retribution killings.

[–] prosecute_traitors@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

the saddest part about this is that his god damn head didn't get exploded.

[–] QuantumTickle@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

Next week: "If they bought produce on an even numbered week day, revoke their visa"

There's no objective justification for what they're doing other than "they want to."

Lmao come and take it.

Oh wait I don’t have one. Because I’m a fucking 6th gen citizen and white as a picket fence, so the ICEcubes won’t be picking me up.

Eat shit and die, Rubio.

[–] 0li0li@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do me, do me! Hm hum:

He deserved it!

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago

He advocated to accept gun deaths as a justified cost for the 2nd amendment and to avoid that new age bullshit called empathy.

So he did not only get what he deserved, he got what he asked for.

How much easier can a viewpoint discrimination court case get? They're literally out here broadcasting the evidence for you. In fact, every single immigrant should make these posts, any action taken to deport you from now on could be argued as a violation of 1st amendment rights based on this guy's great idea. Will probably come down to SCOTUS affirming that rights only apply to citizens, and of course the definition of a citizen will be modified to exclude non-white people.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

MuH FiRsT AmeNdMent RiGhts!

[–] razzazzika@lemmy.zip 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Clearly the 2nd is all that matters

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Charlie Kirk ~~agrees~~ agreed

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Very obviously unconstitutional but will they get away with it?

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Like the constitution still matters

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago

It still matters if we make it matter.

I hope you are being sarcastic. Of course they will fucking get away with it. Are you going to stop them?

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I'm a natural born citizen and a veteran. Come pry my patriotism from my cold dead hands, you fuck

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Aren't they already doing that with folks who... post JD memes? I mean, c'mon.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

This is disgusting. Free speech includes not feeling sorry for someone who died abusing free speech

[–] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

How about we revoke that ugly ass wig.

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Bitch, I was born here, and you can't stop me from jerking off to that beautiful money shot.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

He should go on some raids with ICE so he can be peacefully shot