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I've seen a depressing trend of Democratic politicians embracing anti trans talking points and compromising gender affirming care for young people.
Burn the DNC to the ground, these impotent acts of betrayal of the voting base that fail to meaningfully activate anyone in return are the unmistakable indicators of a terminal disease in the party.
The sooner we do it, the sooner we can start building a real party on the left in the US.
This isn't redeemable or reformable.
Make a third party that appeals regionally at first than expand nationwide to replace the democrats.
It’s a mathematical certainty that any work on a third party will only help the party that it is most unlike. Seriously, you aren’t the first to think “fuck it, let’s just have a NEW party.” You will spend your days actively harming your interests until you die. And here’s the part where you tell me it needs to get worse before it gets better. No, it doesn’t. It needs to get better incrementally over long time scales and that is the ONLY way anything has ever improved anywhere. Do the work. This nonsense about burning down the world over a single issue is performative crap we don’t have time for.
This is why first-past-the-post needs to be replaced with the single transferable vote. The rules were originally designed by the rich for the rich.
If you believe that’s where your energy is best spent, I wish you success. It’s probably a matter of planting trees whose shade you’ll never sit in, but there are healthy alternatives we can promote.
Starting a third party in a FPTP system? That’s just suicide.
There is another way: run for office as a Democrat and be the change you want to see in the party. What Bernie and AOC did. We need a few dozen more of them, and things will actually start moving.
What the tea party did. What MAGA did. What Mandami is doing.
Changing the existing party is what works. Demolishing it does not.
We can only hope Elon starts his third party he's threatened a couple times.
Trans rights are human rights. What would be the point of opposing fascism if it's not to uphold human rights?
because it's worse for business than neoliberalism was. The rich agreed to fascism because they needed to redirect populist sentiment, but the neoliberal model really was optimal for them.
Giving up on trans rights is the definition of losing to fascism.
Fascism is an ideology that's turtules all the way down. Once you exclude one group you have built the social infrastructure and mechanisms to exclude any other group. The only defense is to accept and include all groups.
This. This is how genocide operates. The number of bystanders gets lower and lower as they are carted off into the camps or turn full blown fascist. It’s always like this. Armenia. Germany. Rwanda. It’s a set script.
RFK has made no secret of wanting to take away meds from mentally ill people and putting them into farming camps.
Mamdani needs to become mayor of New York already to show these clown democrats how to do their jobs.
They are doing their jobs. They aren't stupid, they just don't work for us.
Sure, but it is kinda funny how every time people start to get close to attacking capitalism or supporting socialists rising in power, suddenly there's a big wave of hate and outrage at trans people, gay people, migrants, etc.
It's almost like they want us to butt-heads with a majority of the population about issues that population will never budge on because the average American has the attention span and compassion of a broken chunk of drywall and only know how to fight.
I have been saying this for a long time, do not abandon advocacy for the rights of marginalized people, but if we want to actually bend society to protecting and respecting those rights, we have to bend it against corporate influence, we have to elect anti-oligarchs, socialists and economic progressives to our local seats of power and influence, we have to kick the legs out from under the foundation of the system that will come for trans people, it will come for gay people, it will come for brown, black and interracial couples, it will come for the mentally handicapped and it will come for women and children, it will come for your video games and your weed and your furry art. One-by-one, every single right and freedom will be lost if we don't start using our strongest weapon against their most vulnerable weak-point, which is by not spending money on luxuries, saving cash away from the banks and corporations who want to "borrow" it.
Our interpersonal narratives with each other need to keep focusing on how the wealthy are the ones making us hate each other, they're the ones driving up the price of eggs, they're the ones making us scared of trans people, they're the ones running congress and senate, they're the ones making gas cost so much, they're the ones taking chunks out of our paychecks and giving us NOTHING in return.
Again, all anyone knows how to do is argue and fight so we have to channel that at the right targets instead of meeting it head-on or we will keep getting stuck in this spiral that has seen only losses in the last decade.
Your "reasoned" argument to "slow down", "don't rock the boat" or "be patient" for social justice would be familiar to Civil Rights activists. MLK suggested that the "white moderate" was a bigger obstacle to civil rights than the white citizens council.
What you're really saying is that class struggle takes priority over social justice. The big problem with that is that social justice has never came to people who who politely sit at the back of the bus.
You guys don't get it. We need to concede the civil rights of a marginalized group to defeat fascism!
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if the Social Democrats would just concede the Jewish Question, they could have kept the Nazis out of power!
Welcome to your civilization. Where your rights are used to further agendas.
Edit:Not Progress
I get it, but conservatism has taken over by ratcheting the country to the right. They've been patiently putting people in positions of power from dog catcher up to the presidency for the last forty years.
Progressives aren't satisfied with ratcheting the country to the left. It's all or nothing.
The country never moves towards the left or socialism in any meaningful way. Gay marriage has been one of the few major wins in recent history, but that's not "ratcheting the country to the left". You could be the most staunch supporter of capitalism and "free markets" in the world and still support trans and gay rights/be socially liberal.
Progressives aren’t satisfied with ratcheting the country to the left. It’s all or nothing.
The Democrats aren't satisfied until the country is completely to the right and they aren't interested in winning elections or seriously fighting MAGA - their focus is firmly on suppressing the left.
Progressives do not hold significant power in elected office or in the DNC. Bernie Sanders had two primaries rigged against him, and David Hogg was recently ousted from his position as Vice Chair of the DNC ~~for gender diversity reasons~~ because he was pushing progressive primary challengers.
Ken Martin also ensured DNC officer neutrality in future primaries this year, in order to neuter David Hogg not long after he committed to funding these challengers (which is likely why David Hogg refused to run for reelection). Democrats only have a problem with rigging primaries when progressives are the ones getting support.
Progressives are unpredictable and difficult to control, may be of the socialist variety, and disincentivize major donors - which the DNC and Democratic party rely on.
They're neoliberals so they can't say the obvious things a Dem candidate needs to do to win an election.
They'd rather a Republican win than a Dem who actually wants to fix wealth inequality
Yes, this 💯. They’re drunk on corpo dollars.
As an AAPI kid, I am more than used to liberals and leftists abandoning and shitting on us at the drop of a hat. In a just world? That wouldn't fucking happen. In the world we live in? I'll settle for not being actively attacked. Let us fight the slow burn fight just don't actively harm. Just so long as it wins elections and does overall harm mitigation.
But that isn't the case. Democrats increasingly try to be "republican lite" and it just doesn't fucking work. Because the DNC seems to believe the bullshit that the republicans are full of "bush era republicans" and "mavericks" who all hate what the party has become and are just looking for an opportunity to do the right thing. And they completely ignore that all those "mavericks" still vote lockstep with the magats (barring one or two personal issues) because they actually also want the hate and suffering but don't like that it isn't them who are leading the charge.
But when one candidate is running on the gas chamber for all trans people and the other candidate just wants to rough them up a bit? The hateful shitheads aren't going to settle for less. But to everyone else? "Both sides suck".
If every time you give in to their demands and they take a step further to the right and ask for more with the intention of surviving to fight to protect what you value another day, you will eventually lose what you value and have nothing left to defend.
Democrats should really just embrace pro-gun politics and win over both right-wingers and left-wing gun owners.
That's like saying they need to give up on the mentally and intellectually handicapped in order to fight the original Nazis... it was who they killed first!
Ratchet effect, in real time. This is what harm reduction and blue no matter who buys you. Democrats are not your friend. The system cannot be reformed. We cannot vote our way out of this. Trans people need to arm up. Allies need to arm up. Look out for one another. Stay safe and good luck.
The standards you walk by are the ones you accept.
Not what they mean at all. It's just that social issues are secondary to winning the war.
This means putting it off until Conservatives can no longer stop us.
(Not trans btw, just believe in trans right)
Their strategy is currently losing the war, as well as social issues
My FB feed is still littered with die-hard liberals espousing views we could afford to debate 15, 20 years ago. Pollution and gun rights. Every word they say is heard differently by the other side and they still don't get it. Fascists are taking over the US and they want to figure out how to recycle better.
Thanks. Glad I'm here for you to sacrifice.
Isn't defeating fascism and standing for trans rights the same thing?
Same with eliminating religion?
These organisations aren't good for human rights. They aren't good for anything or anyone.
liberals gonna lib but what does the acceptance, or rejection, of science have anything to do with it? Plenty of fascists have had no problem embracing science as a method of political expediency and plenty of leftists have rejected scientific advance as a measure of political progress.
Right wing politicians are really good at getting elected by doing and saying whatever they need to. Once they’re in office, as Trump demonstrated, all bets are off.
So far, the left’s strategy has been two-fold.
- Promoting unpopular mandates instead of just getting elected and re-writing the law.
- Promoting popular policies, getting elected, and then squabbling among themselves ineffectually.
I think its extremely uncommon to say we have to sacrifice trans rights
More commonly some people say trans rights are a fringe issue not necessary to defeat fascism, and slightly less common yo say trans rights were never even on the table.
If you have to pick between an anti-trans dnc and a Republican then you're gonna be voting on some other issue like whether or not to bring back Gulags and if the lower 90% should be able to afford housing or food or healthcare.