I've always found it some form of narcissism or something that people always find some way to interpret something during their time as the most/best/worst whatever.

Kind of like how every election is always the most important election ever.

Or today is the most or least safe or all of these ridiculous things people suggest anecdotally. Your average person has little knowledge or context of history and just selfishly presumes, yes, NOW, this time, OUR time is the most crazy.

I'm well aware I'm thinking too much for a shitpost.

2017-2021 was Trump, so I think it started earlier. Was it maybe more like US election season 2016 as the start of it? It's hard to pinpoint. But yes. The old US seems gone now-- Our government went from covertly corrupt to very openly so. We're becoming Russia, and its hard to imagine ever rolling it back to who we once were.

2000

Just been a whipsaw shitshow since.

2000 is when Bush got elected and we openly courted the fringe, the uneducated, and religious right. Openly chose obstinacy and willful ignorance in an unqualified nepo-president who got the job because of daddy. 9/11 happened and the standard became selling shitty policy to Americans by labeling it something patriotic. The tax breaks came fast and hard, more unilateral decision making by the President. We can easily argue there were a lot of historic actions that led up to this from Gingrich to Nixon to Reagan, but Bush and the RNC are the one that really set things in motion to get us to trump. The Tea Partiers, Pailin, the official voice of the Right used openly to demonize the left and people like McConnell or Bohner actively sabotaging bipartisanship and undermining the presidency.

Yeah, 2000 for sure.

Nah 2012 when people got smartphones is when the world ended

*2016 was the last normal year.

Let's not forget the chaos and societal upset during the first term.

Edit: I guess it would actually 2015 as the last normal year. 2016 started with Harambe and ended with the far-right winning an election and a Nazi parade honoring trumps election.

The timelines been screwed since harambe was murdered.

2005 was the best year: France had a hot and dry summer, so the grapes got a high concentration in sugars and tannins, which gave to most wines of that year an extreme deepness and complexity. Oh, I miss 2005 so much.

I think the last normal year was either 2012 or 2013.

2016*

And that's my theory as to how Trump won a second term. A lot of people think that 2019 is the cutoff

Personally I think it was 2015 was the last normal year for the world and my life hasn't recovered from 2012. I'd actually say 2022-2024 were the most normal and stable years of my life. I got married, held a job, and built a community in a stable place.

In 2019 the guy from the Apprentice was POTUS.

1975 is the beginning of the end for the US Empire. The treasury spent on a dumb war in SE Asia, Reaganomics and his trickle down BS, Gulf War I & II (wasting more treasure). Krasnov, COVID and fucking Krasnov again.

Been a few blurbs published about how covid affects brains

I left the US after Bush Jr was elected and it was the best decision of my life. That's when fascism started it's slow ramp up in the USA

I second 2015 as the last year things sucked on a normal and bearable Level.

Ah youngins

It's been downhill for quite some time

People who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. The USA has been in a constant power struggle between monied interests and liberty since the founding days. The same party has been in control of China since before Mao was starving millions of people. A lot of european countries are literally still monarchies.

This is the normal.

Actually that was 1997