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[–] mitch@piefed.mitch.science 176 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (23 children)

i actually knew one of these powerusers in the early 2010s. he had leukemia, and i signed up to be a match to donate spinal marrow for him. i visited him in the hospital a bunch. he hasn't acknowledged me since. that was a real bummer, but, i tend to see friends where they don't exist so that might be on me.

i am a little bummed that i got permabanned just because i was so close to all of the reddit founders and early employees. i personally prevented alexis from getting arrested for trying to openly smoke weed on the street in pittsburgh when it was still the kind of thing that got you put in prison for a few years if your skin is darker than popcorn.

steve huffman in particular is a shitter and always has been. think of that kid you knew growing up who would make up that his dad worked at SEGA and that Goku was going to be in the next Sonic game — that's spez, still, to this day. he is "mr. namedropper." steve, genuinely, i do not care that you saw Beyoncé at the airport.

ETA: since people are being weird about phrasing, i signed up to be a match. his alias back then was Dacvac. i literally sat in bars and watched him mod /r/pics on an iPad. believe me or don't, i'm just some schmoe online after all.

[–] ratel@mander.xyz 96 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

believe me or don't

It doesnt really matter either way but I'm inclined to believe you because you aren't exactly going to get kudos for being close to reddit founders on the fediverse so this is more like a confession than a brag. FWIW I enjoyed the context.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 115 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Digg went sideways because of "power users," among other things.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Eh. There's more than one kind of poweruser. The "people who are too online" are very different from the "accounts that exist to leverage social media for advertisement".

Social media thrives on the whale users who are churning out content and hungry for engagement. It goes to shit when you've got your front page clogged with Native Ads and other shameless marketing gimmicks.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Digg's powerusers were often revealed to be selling their influence.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Many of these accounts weren't just freelancers. They were set up by marketing agencies, often with the explicit support of the social media hosting firm.

Like, its in the fucking business model to sell artificial engagement and promotion.

Might not even be a bad business model per say, if the promoted material wasn't so consistently slop.

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think we are in a much different time than the Digg days. Reddit has much more power over their users than Digg ever did. If you leave Reddit, you are leaving all your niche communities and the boatload of user created content.

I left as an active user, but if I want to see conversations about the latest episode of whatever show I’m watching, there is always an active discussion on Reddit. Or if I’m looking for some BIFL suggestions, I almost always end up on a Reddit thread from 2 years ago with exactly what I was looking for and 8 different opinions.

I am hopeful that all this stuff will slowly make its way to Lemmy, but until then, Reddit is in no danger of losing its user base.

[–] mitch@piefed.mitch.science 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

a lot of people aren't old enough to remember that when the digg exodus happened, reddit didn't even have subreddits yet. it was just links on one page, and we built our little subculture in the comments of each thread. that's why there is such a culture of commenting before reading the article (if at all) — it used to be a big, disorganized blob of chatty nonsense, much like Fark or MetaFilter were at the time too.

reddit is a lovely example of how tech companies from 1995 to 2020 fell into success and figured out what their product does later down the line. to quote homer simpson when asked what his tech company does, "we're a website that sells computers.... or.... a computer that sells websites, I haven't decided yet."

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[–] piskertariot@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

While this is true, it's funny to watch them wrestle with the exact same problems right now. Literally on the front page of new Digg right now is converstions about fragmenting the user-base with blocks/bans, and how to establish friend groups.

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[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 67 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I know there's at least one admin that also moderates r/news. That's how I got permbanned a second time. They don't like it when you point out obvious bots.

You'd think Spez's "landed gentry" would have better things to do.

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[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 62 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One of my older Reddit accounts was blocked on several top subs for abusing the report button.

One of those super mods posted a photo of someone endangering their pet on multiple subs. The content was literally against site-wide rules but also broke sub-level rules on each of the subs it was posted. I reported the photo on each sub it was posted to separately. Unbeknownst to me at the time, that super mod was a mod of every single one of those subs. So, they had the ability to ban/block me on each one for "abuse".

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[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 42 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Which explains why the Tetrarchs are so hardcore about deleting messages about it. Digg's death brought Reddit to prominence; they don't want the inverse to happen.

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[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (5 children)

No that happened because they rolled out a completely new method of submitting posts where paid partners could have direct access to the front page.

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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 1 day ago (22 children)

Want to know what's fucked? People on Reddit are openly advocating for Concentration Camps and the Mods have ID gated subs like alcoholics anonymous but if I bring up things like the leader of a sitting political party not only saying we should fund the Taliban with tax payers money but presenting it as a flagship policy for this party, I get my comment removed and my account shadow banned.

That's where we are on Reddit right now.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Their Contributor Quality Score is basically the social media equivalent of a Social Credit Score. Not like karma, it's a whole other system that demands you produce content for them or get shadow banned. It's bonkers.

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[–] Juice@midwest.social 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Because you can't really ban someone from a lemmy instance. The userbase is the type of people to get around rules like that if they want.

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[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

At one point while I was still on Reddit I learned that there was another site that indexed the users with the highest post and comment scores. I looked at the top of the list and saw accounts that were relentless repost monsters. I went ahead and blocked all of them, and my Reddit experience immediately improved, as I stopped seeing the exact same shit reposted over and over, day after day. Then the API-ocalypse came, and I walked away and never looked back.

[–] CaptainBlinky@lemmy.myserv.one 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Me: This video of a POS attacking a sleeping person (literally drop elbowing him in the head with the potential of snapping the neck) on the NYC subway with malicious assault says more about all of the people watching and filming while doing nothing about it than the attacker.

Reddit: You are permanently suspended from Reddit.

3 days ago.

[–] mad_djinn@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Well, you referenced the potential death of a human which their advertisers definitely do not approve of. Luckily for them, the mods caught your horribly violent comment before it could reach the masses. The fact you were only permabanned, and not charged with a crime against humanity, is a blessing indeed!

Please be careful in the future when using words that might make someone else feel something, especially if that person (who you don't know) might have to face an uncomfortable reality. It's only fair that we censor genuine human expression in the name of brand image. After all, the advertisers are what's keeping the lights on around here. If we stopped listening to their demands, god knows what kind of horrible society might emerge.

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[–] AngularViscosity@piefed.social 30 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I wonder how Lemmy compares.

[–] Aquila@sh.itjust.works 43 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Well i just saw pugjesus move ~10 comms to piefed so…

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Definitely more than 10.

Some people have the time to be terminally online, and end up running everything just by sheer omnipresence.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most communities in the fediverse, to be fair, are pretty empty compared to their reddit counterpart

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

I absolutely think that's part of the strength of Lemmy.

I have no idea why the Lemmy devs copied the reddit "lords and peasants" model of moderated interactions, and I don't know if Lemmy will survive long term against the tide of corruption that Reddit is in the late stages of right now. But at least it's pretty easy to move to a different fiefdom if you want to. If, for example, your home server lemmy.world gets all enshittified and filled with obnoxious interactions, you can just up and leave and still keep nearly all of your engagement if other people are in agreement.

You can take a look at lemmy.ml or blahaj and see what Lemmy could look like if that wasn't possible. To me, moving servers when stuff gets weird is a healthy thing.

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you assume they don't have multiple accounts

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[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I'd be curious to see what their AI permaban tag words are. So many words must be listed since they will ban you for violence if you even mention Luigi or say the word "dead."

I'd also love to be a fly on the wall for those conversations to see their thought process for how they deny the first amendment and how many bots they need to replace the one person they banned to make the site seem full.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

i've been banned twice the past two years... for talking about my cat killing rabbits. once on a local sub and another on a cat sub.

apparently animal on animal violence is now too controversial for reddit.

i was also constantly blocking people the past year because i go sooo many harassing DMs. Never used to get those until like '23. i remember using reddit for like 12 years without every having to block anyone.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Its like a microcosm of US media in general.

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[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

A short video on the subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjUcfSVuU1A

Talks about ex Mods that have since either been defeated, or have just changed their names. "Cyxie", "Gallowboob", "Merari01", "Siouxsie_siousv2" and "Awkwardtheturtle".

Reddit post talking about Cyxie's account being deleted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/gk569a/cyxie_account_gone/

Fuck reddit.

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[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

I had a bizarre run-in with a mod who harassed me in DMs. It was the mod to a TikTok group and this was around the TikTok ban.

Other than that, I got banned for three days multiple times for telling conservatives to go fuck themselves in as many words and as great detail as I possibly could.

[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So glad to be out of that cesspool.

[–] RonniePickering@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (7 children)
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[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hmph. As a one time mod or top mod of several "default" subs I can confirm that the image is true.

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[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Kudos. Rarely does an image capture the whole story as well as this one does. Indeed. Of course it makes those of us who remember the good old days feel some grief.

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[–] Nunar@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Why is Reddit used for anything but porn these days?

[–] ngwoo@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

It's where people are. If you want to have any commercial success on the internet you almost need a presence on places like Reddit and Twitter

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[–] asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I permabanned reddit with these additions to my hosts file:

127.0.0.1 old.reddit.com

127.0.0.1 www.reddit.com

Fuck their astro-turfed corporate censorship.

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