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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 85 points 1 week ago (24 children)

Solution:

Motor-voting registration in all states through the DMV. You already have to prove citizenship for Real ID. Make sure everyone getting a state ID is also registered to vote.

Then you do 100% vote by mail.

Republicans: "Wait, not like that..."

[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 55 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Do ya one better. Make voting mandatory.

[–] PurpleSkull@lemm.ee 26 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Now THAT would end the Republican party forever. And it would be an easy sell for Democrats too.

"Since our president loves democracy and voting integrity so much, let's pass a bipartisan law requiring all eligible citizens to vote or face penalties of fines and imprisonment."

Then watch the mental gymnastics of MAGAs trying to argue how mandatory voting and voting in general is a bad idea.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

These are the same Republicans who stand for less government interference. You really think they will agree to force their people to vote?

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 7 points 1 week ago

They only want less government in regulation of businesses to make easier and more profitable to plunder society.

Otherwise they're all over the idea of telling people what to do or think or who to worship, etc.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

less government interference

Trump has made his first quarter all about tariffs and deportation. We need to drop this decades-gone lie that they ever cared about reducing government.

Even this EO is interfering in state's rights.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

"Why do you hate freedom?" :)

Look at the pushback on mandatory vaccinations...

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I am all for mandatory voting in the US for everyone over the age of 18. Voting is not just a right but a civic duty and everyone should be required, and enabled, to carry it out.

As for those worried about paying for it take a percentage of every political donation/contribution to candidates, parties and PAC's and fund it with that.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not everyone needs a real ID, and you'd just be preventing poor citizens from voting.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Real ID is becoming a requirement for all state issued IDs. Let me see what the current deadline is:

May 7th.

https://www.oregon.gov/odot/dmv/pages/realidtraveler.aspx

"Do I need a REAL ID?

 Yes, if you...

Are 18 and older and will travel in the U.S. by plane after May 7, 2025, without a valid passport.

Visit military bases, secure federal facilities or nuclear plants.

 No, if you...

Have a star on your license, permit or ID (this means you already have a REAL ID).

Prefer to use an unexpired, government-issued passport for U.S. travel.

Do not travel the country by plane.

Do not visit military bases, secure federal facilities or nuclear plants.

Are under 18 years old. TSA does not require children under 18 to provide identification when traveling within the United States."

[–] horrorslice@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

You are not forced to get a Real ID and can stick to a state only drivers license (if you want).

It's a requirement for those listed things.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (21 children)

So you only need it under certain conditions. It's not a requirement to vote. So most people don't need it, because the vast majority of people don't visit military bases, secure federal facilities, or travel via aircraft.

Voting is a fundamental right. You really want to make it so only people wealthy enough to fly places get to vote?

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[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago

Louisiana just declared a state of emergency over their aged license system, they're saying if you need to fly you might need 180 days to go through their accelerated program to get a real id

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Getting a real ID isn't a requirement to register to vote at the DMV. You could also be there to get a regular ID, register your car, etc. This is how we do it in Oregon and we also have regular election offices too. The very people you're talking about are much more likely to visit the DMV at some point than visit an election office.

[–] FringeTheory999@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (12 children)

A lot of people don’t have IDs or licenses, they cost money, you have to take time off of work to get them, which also costs money, and a lot of people have barriers to getting ID if they lack supporting paperwork, like a birth certificate, bills in your name to prove address, three forms if ID, etc. heck lots of people don’t even have an address at all. People who don’t have easy access to supporting paperwork, who don’t have addresses, or can’t afford fees are all allowed to vote. This cuts a lot of the most vulnerable people in the country out of the democratic process, which is why the righties are always pushing for this stuff. They’d rather that the people who stand to lose the most from right wing policies be unable to vote against those policies.

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[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It’s not that easy to get a Real ID. I struggled to get one because I’ve been moving a lot lately and they require a bunch of documents pointing to the same residential address. I was only able to get one after I settled down long enough to meet that requirement.

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[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

By its terms, Article I, Section 4, Clause 1, referred to as the Elections Clause, contemplates that state legislatures will establish the times, places, and manner of holding elections for the House of Representatives and the Senate, subject to Congress making or altering such state regulations (except as to the place of choosing Senators).1 The Supreme Court has interpreted the Elections Clause expansively, enabling states "to provide a complete code for congressional elections, not only as to times and places, but in relation to notices, registration, supervision of voting, protection of voters, prevention of fraud and corrupt practices, counting of votes, duties of inspectors and canvassers, and making and publication of election returns."2

IANAL: This sounds like more grandstanding to appease his cult sure to be challenged.

[–] kriz@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Still dangerous even if challenged. First, he ignores any court orders. Second, when "elections" come around he can say blue states didn't follow the law and throw out their votes.

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 5 points 1 week ago

Yeah, my view is he looks to throw out as much insane bullshit as he can and see what he can make stick.

From his perspective it costs virtually nothing beyond a pen and paper, and it either wastes a bunch of resources and time for opposition, or he gets what he wants if it goes unopposed, basically win/win for $0.

How to stop him is another matter, but ones like this 'should' be easy wins.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Thanks for this.

[–] halfempty@fedia.io 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well that will never stand up in court. The Executive branch doesn't unilaterally create federal election policy. Trump has passed from unconstitutional, to ANTI-constitutional.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 17 points 1 week ago

Our king need not concern his highness with trivialities of law.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Never stopped him from trying before, though.

[–] Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How about a breathalyzer unlock dipshit's signal app?

[–] sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

Who, you mean Whiskeyleaks?

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[–] NOT_RICK_SANCHEZ@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

And just like that, F-47 ended illegal voting ladies and gents!

Outside the theatrics for his idiotic base, has anyone informed Felon-47 that this is already the case?

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

As european, I find it extremely baffling that you don't have to prove your citizenship to vote in USA. Is there some detail here I'm missing? Is it about how difficult it is to implement this in practice?

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 15 points 1 week ago

The problem is the US in the past has designed voter registration rules explicitly to prevent black people from voting.

This talk of voter fraud is a dog whistle. Election fraud is way more prominent than voter fraud.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Voter registration is handled at the state level, not Federal. It's a problem that has never existed. Just Mango Mussolini trying to Nazi harder.

Voter registration in the United States

(Emphasis mine.)

All U.S. states and territories, except North Dakota, require voter registration by eligible citizens before they can vote in federal, state and local elections. In North Dakota, cities in the state may register voters for city elections, and in other cases voters must provide identification and proof of entitlement to vote at the polling place before being permitted to vote. Voter registration takes place at the county level in many states or at the municipal level in several states. Many states set cutoff dates for registration or to update details, ranging from two to four weeks before an election, while 25 states and Washington, D.C. have same-day voter registration, which enables eligible citizens to register or update their registration on the same day they cast their vote. In states that permit early voting, and have voter registration, the prospective voter must be registered before casting a vote.

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[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

They make these things difficult on purpose

First it isn't an actual problem. In most elections there's one fraudulent vote cast out of every million or so votes.

Second, historically every single attempt to institute these policies has been done with the goal of suppressing the vote.

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[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are these things called social security numbers. The first three digits of that number indicate what state you were born in and there are different three-number prefixes for resident aliens and naturalized citizens. If your social security number starts with 050-134, you were born in New York. If your SSN starts with 362-386, you were born in Michigan. SSN beginning with 729-733 are for naturalized citizens and applicants for citizenship.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago

Finally! Hackers won't know where I was born! Wipes brow.

Wonder why they decided to change that.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The fun part is none of this is free. The proper way to do this issue FREE IDs for years prior to requiring them.

Lots of states could do this. The feds should be doing it (they already have a bunch of your info anyway). The republicns know this is a poll tax, that's why they're attempting to do it the stupidest way possible

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

National poll tax.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

To be clear, you already required proof of identity at the poll but now you also have to provide proof while registering (basically asking for an assigned polling location) which is usually done online or even automatically but now likely can't if this order is enforced by states.

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m all for boycotting companies, but when you live in a rural isolated food desert of a town, you kinda have to shop online so yeah…

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That is sadly been the case for a very long time. In the 1890s and 1900s there was a saying in America that if you lived in the countryside you didn't have many books. You had the Bible... and the sears-roebuck catalog (yes they had groceries and grocery versions).

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