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LAS VEGAS — The top tourism official in Las Vegas says the city hasn't priced out regular travelers, even as July visitor counts fell and casinos took in more from gamblers.

Steve Hill, CEO of the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority (LVCVA), said monthly figures can bounce around but argued the destination remains competitive at different price points.

"We're not happy with the downturn but the city's taking steps to address that," Hill told reporters Friday.

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[–] Carvex@lemmy.world 126 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I can’t fucking afford to live in my own hometown, how the fuck can I afford visiting there?

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

Maybe you could afford to visit if you gambled away your life savings until you struck it big.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Have you considered debt?

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[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 117 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

People will make their own anecdotal gripes about Vegas, but the real reason is the Trump administration’s insane border and trade policies driving away international visitors as they fear getting arbitrarily detained or they actively boycott the US.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not to mention targeting a lot of the help… no idea why attendance would drop.

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 week ago

Not to mention that people can't afford anything because tariffs.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is it. My brother lives in Vegas and I've visited plenty of times and spent time walking the strip in the last couple months.

Way less people from other countries these days compared to last year. You can hear it when walking around town, now it's just English and Spanish.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Spanish? Which ones?

— ICE

[–] psoul@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Relax, they’re white, it’s Spanish from spain

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Even so.

-- ICE

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Definitely. I have international friends, we used to meet up in Vegas periodically because it was cheap/easy for me and somewhere they could go to do all the shopping, eating, etc. they wanted.

They aren't doing that right now. And I don't blame them.

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[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean the guys already managed to bankrupt a casino in the past, so he’s just added the challenge of trying to bankrupt the whole consortium now!

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Back in 2015, Warren Buffett was being interviewed by CNBC about the possibility of a Donald Trump win.

He kind of laughed at that notion, and the interviewer said "Why are you laughing? He's a businessman like you"

Warren Buffett goes: "Every business he's ever had, he's run into the ground"

Then the reporter says: "Well, he's currently leading the polls and slated to win"

I remember Buffett just kind of leaning back in silence, realizing what he said, understanding that the business Donald Trump "would be running" was the United States.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Buffet: (I need to diversify with foreign assets)

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[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 87 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No shit, capitalism is out pricing tourism. What do you greedy fucks thought would happen when you create a funnel system for you?

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 109 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's not just that. Foreign tourists don't want to risk being detained at a US airport just so some ICE alphamale goon can meet his quota.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Anybody not white and goes to USA today should win a darwin award

They have, to my great surprise, even been harassing and detaining whites. I think there is typically a political slant to it, however. They can't have nonracist and/or nonfascist whites coming through.

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Some don't have much of a choice. But yeah, for the volunteers, I agree.

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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There are no alpha humans. Those ICE goons are just angry, brutal racists let off their leashes.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Vegas sucks but it’s hilarious that Trump is literally bankrupting Vegas

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Oh wow, I highly doubt anyone can bankrupt a bunch of casinos.

What sort of imbecile could do that! It's pretty much impossible to bankrupt one casino let alone a bunch of them.

Next you'll be telling me a reality TV 'star' who was best mates with a convicted human trafficking child rapist, who has been taking money from Russia for decades, will be president. Pfft, no population would ever vote that type of person in...TWICE.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Many people are saying that he's the bigliest at bankrupting casinos.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 17 points 1 week ago

Well he prototyped the casino failure "business" model in his younger days. It's only logical that he's spreading that acumen around now.

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[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Vegas used to be a pretty cheap destination for a vacation that saw a ton of profit from the sheer amount of people that funneled there.

It used to be that you would sometimes get buffet and drinks comped if you spent enough time gambling, and that incentive would keep you in that casino continuing to gamble instead of going to a different place. The cost of a buffet meal and a couple highballs was a small price to pay to keep someone at the tables for another couple hours.

Now(within the last 15 years), Vegas is leaning away from being the worldwide gambling destination and leaning more into fine dining and live shows. This has changed the entire economy there and everything is crazy expensive if you're anywhere near the strip.

This is all to say nothing about the drop in tourism in general because you might just get assaulted when you enter the country by some twat from ICE if your skin is darker than a hotel towel.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 30 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Vegas never interested me but I have friends who have talked about that shift. Even going somewhere other than a casino, food and entertainment used to be a bargain compared to other vacation destinations, including restaurants that were started by well known chefs. Now everything is at a premium, even more so than other places.

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[–] dugmeup@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Yup, the casino used to subsidize a lot of things. In all honesty you can still get free drinks but the threshold had climbed to where 20 bucks in the slots got you drinks to I don't even know what now.

There are regulars who gets comped rooms, but it's all based how much you gamble every year. So not a bargain.

The concept of rich fucks subsidizing non-rich like me was definitely a dying culture and now it sounds like this is completely dead. So yeah no way I'm paying full prices at Vegas - getting a good deal was the only point of travelling all the way to the middle of nowhere.

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[–] smeg@infosec.pub 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The city is propped up largely by business conventions, at this point. Businesses don't mind swallowing stupidly high costs, especially for sales+marketing teams who always get blank checks, which artificially inflates the price of visiting for absolutely all other audiences. So, nobody else is going.

I've heard that musicians hate performing in Vegas now because so much of the audience are not real fans - but instead business travelers with comp tickets. Dead audiences who don't care.

Unfortunately, I had my first trip to Vegas last year for work. And again in June. And now again in September. Because I'm there for work with work engagements, I don't get to explore the more interesting things outside the city and strip. And having no interest in gambling, stupid-level drinking, loud noisy music, or flashy shit everywhere, I've come to really hate going there.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If it makes you feel any better, the only thing outside of the city and strip is poverty and sorrow. You're not missing anything.

[–] eltrain123@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If you get out of the city, Red Rocks State Park and Hoover dam are worth seeing.

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Saw a YouTube video. A can of beer taken in the casino minimarket was not priced on the shelf and rang at $20, with a $4 mandatory automatic tip to the cashier because he opened the can.

What's this, a "we have Dubai at home" kind of scam?

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[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Americans can barely afford to live with constantly increasing prices, and foreigners get illegally arrested and deported. Who's left to visit Vegas, except maybe Leisure Suit Larry?

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[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Vegas is so cooked.

Another thing harming tourism is the heat for sure. Very regularly over 110f in the summer and there is no shade at all on the strip. The actual concrete temp is easily hitting 120f.

Not to mention the city actually smells OF (not like) human shit. The sewers were never built to handle this many people and it's not a problem anyone is willing to address or acknowledge.

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[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago

There's already "Baghdad Bob" so perhaps we can call this guy "Vegas Vince". Everything is under control!

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Boycott everything in America. I say this as an American. It doesn’t get better for anyone here until it gets better for everyone out there. And the powers that be, need to come to terms with the fact that this is the way it’s going to be.

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[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Vegas never really recovered properly from covid, but the current economic situation and the political climate aren’t helping either.

Vegas prices went through the roof post-covid, since people had extra money and were spend-happy. This caused price increases across the board, but it also drew the wrong people to Vegas, increasing crime and other problems.

And with the economy being what it is now, people aren’t willing to spend that much in Vegas. And international tourists are actively avoiding the US. Pre-pandemic, 20 percent of Vegas tourism was international tourists.

Vegas needs to cut prices so deeply that international tourists go ‘fuck it, we’ll go anyway’.

[–] mriormro@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Vegas deserves to crash and burn. It shouldn't exist.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I've been to las Vegas twice now, both times to visit friends there, and both times I went to the strip and yo some restaurants and both times were godawful. It is such a horrid place that shouldn't even exist in the first place, and I have no idea what any tourist would like there apart from semi legal prostitution.

It's a soul sucking place and if it were to die, I think that would be best for everyone, just leave that place.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We are gambling our lives every day in Chump's America, why should we go to Vegas to do it when we already do it from home?

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[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Vegas used to be cheap. Sure doesn't feel that way anymore.

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[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As a Canadian there isn't a chance in hell I'm crossing into the USA. It is far too dangerous for a number of reasons. I could end up in a MAGA death camp, detained for weeks (months?) or just randomly shot by their crazy gun-fucking citizens. I don't know why anyone would go there.

Our household is also boycotting all US made products so it wouldn't make sense to spend money directly in the US.

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[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I’m going in a few weeks for a renewable energy conference. I’ll see what’s up. They wanted $1100 for two nights at the Cesar. Hilarious.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's amazing how many foreign tourists come through Vegas. Sucks to be the casinos lol

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[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

head of tourism insists Sin City isn't dead

It may not be dead, but it does smell kinda like it.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I knew visitors kept dropping but this is the first time I've heard Casinos are taking in more from gamblers. That sounds like the nail in the coffin right there, only people with lots of money are going to Vegas.

[–] arc99@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Meanwhile casinos: "visitors aren't coming so we'll add more fees, charge $20 for a bottle of minbar water and put an extra 0 on the roulette wheel"

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 8 points 1 week ago

My company put us up a company retreat in Vegas.

Hotel rooms were gorgeous. But there was a incredibly sensitive minibar - with I fucking kid you not, $10 bottled water and $15 mini liquors.

I know that because they tried to charge me a $90 minibar fee. Even though I didn't touch it. It was bogus, because half my company was charged these fees.

I didn't pay anything and last I heard, the hotel dropped it all.

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

It’s dead to me.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

"Top tourism official" - is his name Baghdad Bob?

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