/r/50501 Mirror

You’ll often see them talk about “leftists” juxtaposed against “liberals”, bit we all know that “the left” and “liberal” are synonyms here. Then they’ll drag you into historical arguments about neoliberalism and blah blah blah to try gaslighting and dragging you down to their level.

It’s sad that the language has been once again co-opted. I’m not a new account and I’ve stayed very consistent here. I’m not a liberal, but I will absolutely work with liberals right now. Many of the people I love are liberals and they’re in the best position to realize that capitalism is irredeemable. I don’t hate them, but it’s not a synonym.

Given that there are enough tankies willing to work for free because getting to make arguments functionally indistinguishable from fascism while asserting that they’re to the left of all the socdems/shitlibs/ancoms/everyone else jibes well with the damage they have, the GRU can save their budget.

Lot to unpack here:

1. This is a mirror of a reddit post, about the traffic to a specific post on reddit. This is not proof of some grand Russian plot to tear apart the couple thousand impotent liberals and leftists here.

2. Liberals believe that capitalism is the best way to organize society and leftists ( Socialists, anarchists, communists) do not. In most other countries liberals are the centrist party with a socialist party to the left of them. You're confusing modern american political identities with broader historical labels that you don't seem to understand because that's boring history. It's important to make the distinction because liberals will often ally with fascists against the left in order to maintain bourgeoisie property relations, study twentieth century history to see examples, or just look at how Cuomo is cozying up to trump and the billions of liberal pac money going to him.

3. The rest of your post seems to be conspiratorial nonsense with no backing besides a reddit post about the traffic to another reddit post. This is like leftists blaming any disagreement or anything that goes wrong on the CIA. This kind of thinking is corrosive and just leads to paranoia, schisms and a lack of self reflection or critique.

Why did we lose the election? No it can't be our flawed politics it must be Russian psyops. Why is that person disagreeing with me? No it can't be that they have a different view thay I should consider, it must mean they're a russian bot.

Liberalism and being on the left are two entirely different concepts.

Pick up an econ book sometime.

It’s been all too obvious since I joined Lemmy that Russia’s APT groups are pushing narratives on us.

The stats are for a subreddit genius.

Trump may be s Russian asset but the US extreme right and it's wish for a violent civil war is a homegrown phenomenon. As is American political illiteracy.

why is it that most russians are drunks?

Nice try Vladibot, but we aren't falling for it. Go back to Tajikistan, you Communist!

Too late 🤖🤖bip bop – how can I help you?

Sounds like something a Russian bot would say.

I'm confused, is this talking about Russian IPs on the 50501 reddit, or here on Lemmy? Maybe dumb question. I'll edit this if I figure out the answer.

I'm sure no other country is sharing traffic on a trans-Pacific data line, right?

Nope. It's been pretty clear why the Hexbearites spout opinions straight from RT and have such "interesting" ideological hypocrisies. I can only assume Reddit at least demands payment.

Bots can buy plane tickets and go places? I thought they were lines of code on a server?!