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[–] Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 176 points 3 days ago (4 children)

People keep saying his approval rating this and that.

I honestly don't think Nazis give a shit.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 86 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Disapproval is a temporary condition, anyway. Soon enough, it'll be illegal (or at least dangerous) to express disapproval, and Trump's numbers will be right up there with Putin and Kim.

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Dont like Trump? Straight to jail

Dont want your pussy grabbed? Straight to jail

Want to collect your social security? Believe it or not, straight to jail

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

We have the best exploding cars in the world. All thanks to jail.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

it’ll be illegal (or at least dangerous) to express disapproval, and Trump’s numbers will be right up there with Putin and Kim.

I don't see the problem as MAGA Republicans suddenly becoming popular on the "it's illegal not to like us" gambit. Bush Jr tried this in his second term - purging the White House press corps, leaning hard on conservative media for support, even prosecuting hostile journalists - and all he got out of it was Wikileaks and a robust anti-Bush media underground.

What we have to worry about is the Race To The Bottom

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Trump doesn't have to be the most popular politician. He just has to be more popular than the opposition. And that's become downright trivial, given how the geriatric Dem Leadership has prostrated themselves before him.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're largely spot on, but one thing I'd like to add is that Republicans in Walz's state have actually pushed forward a "Trump Derangement Syndrome" bill, which would classify openly speaking negatively about Trump as a mental illness that is valid justification for incarceration in a mental health facility, which is exactly what Russia did.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Republicans in Walz’s state have actually pushed forward a “Trump Derangement Syndrome” bill

Which won't pass their state house, certainly won't pass their state senate, and Walz isn't going to sign.

which is exactly what Russia did

The post-Soviet Russian state was the result of shock therapy more consistent with Musk's DOGE strategy than any kind of middling public censorship campaign. Rapid privatization of state assets for the benefit of sellout state actors and foreign investors/liquidators was what brought down the Russian government.

Putin's United Russia didn't come to power through petty proletariat censorship. It came to power when Putin and his allies mobilized what was left of the police state and used it to whip the newly minted billionaire oligarchy into an ideologically consistent nationalist project. We saw a similar transformation in China, in the immediate run up to the Xi Premiership. Both Xi and Putin had to wrestle power away from western-friendly kleptocrats intent on turning their states into the next Philippines or Honduras.

[–] Iampossiblyatwork@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Slotkin? Really? This woman is pretty despised among left leaning Michigan Dems. Complete turn coat.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

She's got name recognition purely from the SotU rebuttal at the moment. I doubt she'd poll better than Schumer if she was allowed in front of a camera for too long.

[–] Iampossiblyatwork@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

https://www.mlive.com/news/2025/03/sen-elissa-slotkin-says-her-job-is-to-be-more-than-just-an-activist-against-trump.html

This was the article that made me lose faith in her.

Slotkin responded by saying she also serves Michigan residents who voted for Trump and that she is responding to the needs of residents who are impacted by changes at the federal level and executive orders from Trump.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah, it's pretty bleak

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Slotkin, Newsom and Schumer are all ardent zionists.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

IF there is another election, HitlerPig will win with 98% of the vote, and claim that his overwhelming popularity with the citizens gives him a mandate to ignore Constitutional term limits.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

The most bizarre posts are the "Elon Musks polls plummet" kind. That fucker wasn't even elected.

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Even if people do care they'll clearly forget how much they hated him 4 years later...

[–] potoo22@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

They won't until 2028.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 154 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"You need to verify your SSN identity in person... At an SSN office which has been defunded and has no employees..."

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 107 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Also, the nearest office is three states over.

So, some good news, when you are forced into an involuntary road trip to get your daughter or granddaughter an abortion you can use verifying your identity to social security as a cover to avoid being deported to El Salvador.

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 14 points 3 days ago

cross-post to c/LifeProTips, this is really good

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

"She's just driving me, because of my cataracts, officer!"

[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 89 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Trump no longer needs any voter approval.

There will be no more elections, or the elections will be falsified Russia-style.

It’s game over in the US. The US is in the late stages of capitalism, falling like the Roman Empire.

[–] nihilist_hippie@lemmy.ca 52 points 3 days ago (2 children)

All my life, I've watched the US slide. But it's crazy it's falling apart right now. Seems surreal for some reason.

I care about Americans and America. There are many good people, who care about me, and us. They deserve to thrive in a secure, prosperous country. I don't want to discount a nation just because of the idiots.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 21 points 3 days ago

Thank you. We’re all scared and angry here and it’s hard to know what to do that won’t get us deported to El Salvador supermax some day in the future thus letting our kids down

Thank you so much! Be sure to relay your concerns to your own government. If we ever dig our way out of this hellscape we will need our allies once more.

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

All roads lead to Rome.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

There will be no more elections, or the elections will be falsified Russia-style.

We're going to test this hypothesis soon enough. Two big gubernatorial races in Virginia and Pennsylvania this year. The "voting no longer matters" crowd is going to assert that these will be landslides for heavy MAGA conservatives, I'm presuming?

We've also got five out-of-cycle vacancy elections for House seats happening, two of which are scheduled for April 1st. FL-1 already had a primary for the GOP position, while the Dem candidate ran uncontested. FL-6 had primaries for both R and D candidates. Have these elections already been rigged? Is the outcome predetermined?

It’s game over in the US.

You wouldn't be the first one to make this claim.

The End of History and the Last Man is a 1992 book of political philosophy by American political scientist Francis Fukuyama which argues that with the ascendancy of Western liberal democracy—which occurred after the Cold War (1945–1991) and the dissolution of the Soviet Union (1991)—humanity has reached "not just ... the passing of a particular period of post-war history, but the end of history as such: That is, the end-point of mankind's ideological evolution and the universalization of Western liberal democracy as the final form of human government."

...

In 2014, on the occasion of the 25th anniversary of the publication of the original essay, "The End of History?", Fukuyama wrote a column in The Wall Street Journal again updating his hypothesis. He wrote that, while liberal democracy still had no real competition from more authoritarian systems of government "in the realm of ideas", nevertheless he was less idealistic than he had been "during the heady days of 1989". Fukuyama noted the Orange Revolution in Ukraine and the Arab Spring, both of which seemed to have failed in their pro-democracy goals, as well as the "backsliding" of democracy in countries including Thailand, Turkey and Nicaragua. He stated that the biggest problem for the democratically elected governments in some countries was not ideological but "their failure to provide the substance of what people want from government: personal security, shared economic growth and the basic public services ... that are needed to achieve individual opportunity." Though he believed that economic growth, improved government and civic institutions all reinforced one another, he wrote that it was not inevitable that "all countries will ... get on that escalator"

But it's not a game and it's never over.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The “voting no longer matters” crowd is going to assert that these will be landslides for heavy MAGA conservatives, I’m presuming?

Or votes being thrown out due to "fraud" or the election being cancelled or certain voters being rounded up by cops so they can't cast ballots or any other number of ways elections can be meddled with.

And don't be too triumphalist just because the election goes off without any problems and Democrats win, this isn't really The Big One. The House and Senate races in 2026 will tell us what the future of elections will be.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Or votes being thrown out due to “fraud”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eagle_Eye_(United_States)

or the election being cancelled

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Brothers_riot

or certain voters being rounded up by cops so they can’t cast ballots

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/texas-woman-sentenced-five-years-trying-vote-gets-new-appeal-n1262691

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/11/politics/hervis-rogers-texas-voting-charge/index.html

or any other number of ways elections can be meddled with.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_caging

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States#False_information

All common in US politics and heavily influential in shaping the outcomes of states like Ohio, Texas, and Florida. These are features baked into our election system and designed to shape the outcomes. They've been going on since the colonial era. This is not a bug of liberal democracy but a feature. To pretend Trump is changing the game, you need to ignore how its historically been played.

And don’t be too triumphalist just because the election goes off without any problems and Democrats win

Of course not. What could that possibly prove, except Democrats aren't nearly as far removed from the Project 2025 goon squad as they like to advertise.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

To pretend Trump is changing the game, you need to ignore how its historically been played.

Right, he's just reviving older parts of the playbook. Very few of the things he's done are actually new, they're just things the US isn't used to anymore or things that haven't been done on a massive scale.

But it wasn't voting that made those older practices fall out of favor, it was more direct actions: labor militancy, mass protests, and radical organizing. What your examples demonstrate is that Trump is defeatable even if he revives every authoritarian trick in the US playbook, but none of that proves voting specifically still matters.

I'll be watching the 2026 elections to see if we can still vote our way out of this, or if we simply need to do something else.

[–] radiohead37@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Trump may not care about approval ratings, but representatives and senators care about keeping their seats more than anything else.

If baby boomers reject republican candidates, they’ll turn against Trump.

[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago

You sweet summer child.

Trump openly stated that Elon knows how to use voting machines to their benefit.

Trump openly stated that we won’t need to have elections any longer.

Your vote no longer matters. Oversight about voting has been dismantled.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 3 days ago

It's not over until the fat lady sings. At the very least, tank Tesla's stock via protest while you still can.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 88 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Boomers waiting until something affects them directly before making the right decision? I'm sure no one saw that coming.

I appreciate that the whole generation isn't that way, but at the same time, the number of Boomers I have personally interacted with who have absolutely no understanding that they are not the main character is way too damn high. A little empathy would go a long way, especially when many of them in the Boomer voting bloc are too old to ever see the effects of their vote.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 13 points 2 days ago

It's straight outta the conservative playbook. It's how their entire rotten brains work.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Seniors wield a lot of political influence in this country because they vote, and because they tend to skew Republican. Pissing off seniors is the last thing that politicians want to do if they want to stay in power.

But here's the thing. That political influence is the only power they have. If you take away the political influence that seniors have, you've essentially relegated them to a bunch of old people sitting around yelling at clouds. Similarly, if the politicians in question feel that they no longer need the seniors' votes, he takes away that political power, again relegating them to old people yelling at clouds.

At least with able-bodied people, there's at least some threat of physical violence, even if it's extremely unlikely. Seniors don't have that. A 70 year old retired first grade teacher and her 94 year old mother aren't going to be picking up arms and storming the capitol any time soon. If you're willing to put up with an old person screaming and you don't need said old person to vote for you, then there's really little to nothing else they can do to you. You've successfully relegated them from a powerful voting bloc to a petty annoyance.

EDIT: For the record, I in no way want to imply that seniors are feeble or anything like that. But at the same time, please keep my comments in context. I am talking about a situation where politicians no longer need the votes of senior citizens and the only leverage that they have left is physical violence. Yes, that's probably still a threat at your local VFW meeting, or even if the group skews younger. But your local politician isn't concerned with your local bingo hall or evangelical group suddenly taking up arms or causing a riot. That's what I'm talking about.

[–] tree_frog@lemm.ee 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm not a senior but I am disabled, when the shit hits the fan I will be helping to cook and take care of folks who are out there on picket lines etc.

So no, folks do still have some power. Even if they aren't as physically able as others.

Pull together (solidarity) Love your neighbor (mutual aid)

That's leftism for conservatives and liberals who have been brainwashed by capitalist propaganda.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tell that to my friend’s grandma. Latest arrest record at 80, for whacking a cop with her handbag at a protest.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Your friend's grandma is awesome

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

Seniors don’t have that.

It seems you're not a senior and don't know many people who are. Not everyone that age is feeble and helpless.

[–] Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago

Seniors don't have [at least some threat of physical violence].

Share that sentiment at your local VFW or AMVETS, and you will learn that propensity is not a prerequisite for proficiency. In fact, those who are most familiar with and capable of violence are usually the same who are most reluctant to employ it.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

"senior" is a pretty wide range though. You can be old enough to get a senior's discount and still able enough to do most things. Maybe you aren't going to be doing 100 situps after jogging 10 miles, but march the streets and hold a rifle sure, and there's probably a good mix of ex-military in there as well as people who know how to make stuff go kaboom in unique and interesting ways.

Taking away their reasons to sit contently and die quietly might not work out as well as some think, but this party in particular is pretty good at thinking everyone but themselves are inept.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 24 points 3 days ago

It’s echo chamber headline bait. Any “people think such and such” headline is just there to tell you what you want to hear. There’s no action here. Nothing useful. Just bricks in the echo chamber wall.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Every time I see a headline saying trump's approval rating has plummeted, I look and it's always in the mid to upper 40's. Every time. It never changes.

[–] FinnFooted@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

All these articles are pure hopeium. I check his approval rating daily hoping my country will gain some sense. His approval is higher than his first term. Half the population has has their brains turned to scrambled eggs by social media. And I get the irony of saying this on social media.

People are impressionable and the tech bros who control movement of information have fallen in line behind Trump. It's going to be a bumpy ride y'all.

[–] PineRune@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

In related news, Trump's approval ratings remain unchanged among Nazis.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

The survey conducted between March 9 and March 11 found that 49 percent of people over 65 approved of Trump's performance as president, while 48 percent disapproved, giving him a net approval rating of +1.

The same survey conducted between March 16 and March 18 found his net approval rating had dropped by 10 points to -9. In that survey, only 45 percent of people over 65 approved of the job Trump was doing, while 54 percent disapproved.

45% still approve. Isn't that higher than his lowest point last time?

It doesn't matter anyway, he does not need to be popular to do whatever he wants

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Rating dropped from +1 (49% approval, 48% disapproval) from 3/9 to 3/11, to -9 (45% approval, 54% disapproval) from 3/16 to 3/18. Sample sizes 400 and 384 respectively. “Boomer” = 65+

[–] MagnyusG@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Did they die?

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