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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 102 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

Both cars support oppressive dictators, but one is cheaper, supports CarPlay / Android auto, and has actually buttons for things.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 64 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I am not sure you can say BYD supports a dictator per se, more like it exists in a state capitalist country where you exist at the behest of the dictator.

Elon actively pushed and spent money to get trump elected.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

Well played sir, well played.

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 30 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Pooh bear is actually starting to look less oppressive in comparison these last 7 months tbh

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 34 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, the CCP has already done a lot of armed crackdowns and disappearing. They’re in the phase where people are too scared to resist.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 12 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Also quite true. They no longer need to use the threat of violence because of the implication

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[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 13 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

This is what I hate. One is owned by a fuck cunt. The other is owned by china. Neither one are actually good options if you are not buying one because of their beliefs

[–] Patch@feddit.uk 17 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

Other options exist; you don't have to buy either. Volkswagen Group, Audi, Renault, BMW, Fiat etc all make EVs in Europe. Hyundai & Kia also both make excellent EVs.

Buying a Tesla is a choice these days. Nobody trips and falls into Tesla ownership. And although those cheap Chinese manufacturers look mighty tempting, they're not the only alternative out there.

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[–] tfm@piefed.europe.pub 52 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Let me guess, the stock did go up?

[–] kiku@feddit.org 63 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Today down 1.37%, but up 7.14% overall for the week.

[–] tfm@piefed.europe.pub 52 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

I'm sure the free market knows what's right /s

[–] YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca 25 points 18 hours ago (2 children)
[–] MacStainless@piefed.social 16 points 17 hours ago

Full unsupervised robotaxi while your car makes money for you as you sleep, in 6-months. Pinky promise.

[–] joekar1990@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

Delivered via Tesla semi

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago

And it's totally not just a rich man's playground.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 50 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Good thing the Tesla board voted to give Elmo all those billions to make him stay, because for a second there was an actual risk that Tesla could survive as a company without Elmo, but now they kept him and made sure they'll all go down off that cliff.

[–] CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

There is no way I would tickle him!

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[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 46 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

How tf does someone with a bajillion dollars look like a pile of wet garbage bags at 54? Aren't they all supposed to be using lotions made from aardvark assholes and incubus foreskins to maintain immortality?

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 27 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Glitchvid@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago

Literal vampire shit lmao.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Well it turns out that ketamine isn't the elixir of life.

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[–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 34 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Come on Canada, let us have cheap BYD, fuck the US economy.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

nah, forget about them

let us have economical cars because we don't need these massive expensive things just to go 5km to get a load of groceries

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Let us have safe bicycle infrastructure do that we can bike to those stores, how about that? And with that, add mixed constructions in the suburbs so that people have small local stores around.

A bike costs a fraction of a car

Bicycle infrastructure building and maintenance costs a fraction of that for cars

Bicycles don't emit CO2. And for those wise asses saying that the cyclist does, it's a fraction of a fraction of a car because you're not lugging 2 tonnes of stell around to transport you and a bottle of milk.

Cycling infrastructure is much more efficient, you can push a shit tonne more people over the same road if you don't need big ass cars. Yes, even your Mercedes smart car is I ass compared to a bicycle

It creates much much less pollution from tire dust

It's much safer, bicycles kill only a fraction of the people that cars kill all year round

It's healthier, people do exercise not because they went to the gym, but all day every day with their bikes

It cuts the noise pollution

It's cheaper because no taxes, no gas needed, maintenance is a fraction of that of a car.

It's way less wasteful

It lowers aggression. Though it may or may not exist, I've never heard of bicycle road rage

Need more?

Less cars is less parking spaces. Parking spaces get cities barely any taxable income. Instead of these ugly ass concrete wasteland parkitsoaces you can now have restaurants with outside patios which can be taxed. Couple that with the cheaper infrastructure, and that alone should be an obvious reason as to why do this

It's really not that much slower. For typical short trips, bicycles usually only add some 10-20% of required time to your trip.

For any trip over say, 5-10 kilometers, use good public transportation

For those once in a lifetime trips where you actually need a car because you need to transport something huge, use one of those Evo rent-a-car.

In the Netherlands, a huge amount of people don't have a car. Not because they can't (they totally can) but because it's stupid to have one. You can go everywhere by bike, you can jump with your bike in a train when needed to go further, cars are expensive and bad for everyone, why even have one?

[–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That works in the city but i live in a remote area, and have an hour and a half round trip to work every day because its not economically viable for me to move closer.

Since I doubt Canada/BC will spend the money putting in viable public transit/high speed rail, I just want them to do the bare minimum to allow me to afford to stop burning gas to afford my next meal.

While striving for turning every small town into a walkable city sounds great and amazing on paper, the reality is it won't happen, so we should push for baby steps in the right direction instead only focusing on the absolute ideal.

[–] Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 hours ago

Us as well. I am disabled. One hour drive one way to the hospital. Grocery store is half an hour. A train would be awesome but they keep ripping up tracks here so that's not likely.

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[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I'm all for fuck the US but don't you think Canada can make it's own cars? Being dependent on China's economy is no better than being dependent on the US or Europe.

[–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 hours ago

While Canada making its own affordable, long range EV's would be ideal in the long run, we literally have no canadian-owned production facilities or brands that currently can, or do produce low or mid end cars, and Canada seems to have no interest in subsidising those.

Which means, in the short run, I want a vehicle I can afford to buy that doesn't give me range anxiety, and the only reason I can't is because Canada literally doubled the price of the cars that currently exist that fit my requirements because the US asked them to.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 31 points 16 hours ago

Not one more penny for this Nazi!

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 22 points 18 hours ago
[–] sundray@lemmus.org 18 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Quick Elon, buy the President of Europe! /s

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

If he could be would try

[–] Legom7@lemmy.world 14 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

My commute is about 20 miles a day. Charging level 1 at work is enough unless I go out on the weekend. My Nissan Leaf has been good enough for me. And it is neither Tesla nor Chinese.

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[–] 58008@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Any non-cunts in the EV manufacturing space? Or is that a prerequisite?

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Hyundai has been pretty good. And I only hear good things about Rivian and Lucid.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago (15 children)

I'm genuinely surprised people be ok with BYD on Lemmy. It's authoritarian spyware, period. There are more options than these two - ww don't have to choose the lesser evil.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 16 points 6 hours ago (9 children)

Why would I give a fucking shit? Every new car is a piece of shit spy ware device that collects and sells your data. Honestly, I'd rather china have my data than a fucking capitalist company or America. At least china won't do anything to me, our government is more of a threat to the average American than china is.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

What a defeatist take.

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