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They've had the first 3 for a while
which I hate.... especially the "shorts"....
tween daughter has adhd, easily falls into tiktok brainrot hellholes. Has trouble with self-regulation and self-control.... I still want her to have music to listen to and do things (some lofi to study/chill to, etc)... but now, Spotify is yet another vector for distraction that consumes her.
People be like "parent's should take responsibility for their kids"... I'm like "mf, I'm trying, but every app in the world is trying to be social media" And the parental controls they offer are shiiiiiiiit. Because it's not in a companies best interest to provide parents with tools to limit features.
At that point I'd just say "we're not going to use Spotify any more" and switch to something else.
There are plenty of music services that aren't trying to do that.
Recently ditched Spotify, and you should too.
what alternative did you end up going with?
I had a script to convert my main Spotify playlist (5000+ songs) to download from soulseek but...yeah that would take a VERY long time and I really didn't feel like being a soulseek asshole going that route.
If there was something out there where I can take my spotify playlist and just convert it and use it on another/better platform I'd switch right now.
I switched to Qobuz. They use https://soundiiz.com/ to migrate, I think it was free transfering to them?
I think it reported a 90% success rate + a few that it picked, but got wrong. It mostly failed on my instrumental stuff, standard stuff was fine.
Another updoot for Qobuz. Very happy with it, and the migration process was even better for me than as you describe it. Also, I didn't think I'd give a shit about it the higher-quality codecs but they're actually amazing. Big fan, A+++, would Qobuz again.
+1 for Qobuz! Tidal firing 100 employees did not inspire confidence in their app being less shit
I've been a happy Tidal user for years fwiw. The app is great as is music availability and discovery. I went back to Spotify for a while because I was missing its discovery features like discover weekly, but Tidal has greatly improved since then, and now features a daily discovery playlist (10 tracks, which I greatly prefer to Spotify's weekly 30), plus 8 custom mixes based on genres you listen to. Track radio is also solid.
Also, it's maybe the only subscription service that instead of creating new tiers, merged the two it had before into one, keeping the upper tier's features at the lower one's cost
I am testing Deezer at the moment. To import playlists and songs, they advertise this 3rd party service, which worked for me.
Let me just listen to music please…
I picked up some mp3 players with Bluetooth for about $7 each on aliexpress. Just finished acquiring my entire Spotify liked list. In my house, we're getting back on the correct timeline.
When you see things like this remember that you're paying for this. Stuff like this is why the price has gone up again.
They had a good thing near perfect but they kept adding useless features and bloating the app and price. I need to cancel this shit but my grandma loves it.
Once they brought on Podcasts and wouldn’t stop shoving Joe Rogan on every screen I absolutely cancelled. I never listened to a single podcast on there yet they were the overwhelming majority of my recommendations. I was also getting annoyed with the random pop-ups of ‘hey wanna try this band that sounds absolutely nothing like anything you’ve ever listened to on our platform before?’…nope! Didn’t need Audible either. The price just kept going up…like guys, I want a music app. That’s it. Nothing else.
Uninstalled Spotify over a year(or 2 or 3?) ago…don’t really miss it.
Spotify was never anywhere near perfect.
Radio? More like exact same 50 track curated playlist on repeat.
Want to listen to music? Here's Joe Rogan. Again. Don't skip him, or we'll automatically subscribe you to his channel.
Enjoying something a little outside your normal 20 tracks we constantly play you? Well let's fix that... Back to the same tiny pool of content loser.
Couldn't help but notice you had some money left over this month. That's good, because the price just went up again.
All I wanted was cd quality audio (which I’m willing to pay for)…
You know you’ve screwed up when the lazy people (me) actually get off their butts to switch.
People will use every one of these horrendous messaging subapps but scoff at the idea of downloading signal or even whatsapp.
It's a good thing that people refuse to download Whatsapp/Meta crap
I've been saying for years the thing Spotify needs are short vertical format video clips. The whole "music" thing is a fad.
I know you're joking but... They actually do already have that. So many songs have a short looping video instead of the album cover or static background when you have the screen open.
Zawinski's law: Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs which cannot expand are replaced by ones which can.
This is just the modern equivalent: Intra-site messaging.
Fuck Spotify. Pay better royalties
Internet company invents a whole new way to receive unsolicited pictures of genitals
Please let this be your sign to start ditching corporate platforms across the board. Enshitification will come for your pristine app experience eventually. Go spend your Spotify monthly bill on one album every month from bandcamp or something. Own your own media. Share it with friends. GET OFF CORPO AD PLATFORMS! I realize this is the fediverse, so people are already kind of on board, but I think music streaming is often given a pass, or sneaks by our focus when discussing these issues.
I've been telling people for years to buy 1-2 albums a month, and then after a couple years you have a sizable library. Spotify is renting.
But spotify is easy and fast, and some people think they listen to way more music than they do. I wonder how many people are paying spotify $10/month to listen to the same 4 albums for years.
But spotify is easy and fast,
So you mean it's convenient. That's a valid reason. Evil shit aside, that's literally why music streaming exploded the way it did.
Unfortunately, the evil shit is pushing me away. Why can't we just have a regular music streaming service that doesn't inevitably suffer from feature creep and enshittification? Why does everything have to constantly increase profits?
I stopped using Spotify years ago and every time I hear about it I only get my decision further reinforced. What an absolutely cancerous company.
NSFW bots sending you spam links and crypto scammers. Yea !!!!!
Why
The post I was on 5 seconds ago was about imugur and how people where confused when they added posts and comments to the image hosting site. Everyone wants a poece of the social media pie...but we need the infrastructure, the websites that host stuff and do it free and efficiently.
...the websites that host stuff and do it free and efficiently.
It's never free. The instance you're using isn't free; it's paid for by donations. ISPs and server hosts don't just give bandwidth out of charity or for the public good. One way or another, these for-profit companies are getting their pound of flesh, typically by selling targeted ad space.
The fact that these companies are adding chat features means they're now going to try mining conversations for additional consumer profile data points, which they can then sell to advertisers.
This new change is gross, and I hope nobody uses it.
Which they can sell to ~~advertisers~~ LLM and AI companies.
It's not talked about too much, because it is not in the best interest of the stockholders. But AI as it was popularized by openAI and both images and text generators already reached a boundary of data availability. There's no more human made data. They are now resorting to synthetic data, which is to make one first generation LLM model create tons of data to train newer or more tailored weighs models. With the issue that this new models develop problems from inbreeding of the data. Training models on other genAI products poisons the models and corrupts their generative power in just a few generations. This is why genAI images are increasingly turning yellow, the same reason newer models are more fragile and hallucinate or go psychotic more easily than old models. So, the AI companies need new sources of human made data to mix in with the synthetic data.
The main problem is that we ran out, there's no more data made by humans to train AI with. Humans don't create new data fast enough to train all the new models with the new doodads and features the AI companies want to sell. So now these companies will pay anything just to get their hands on new fresh stuff. These is why any app in the planet will now pivot to do anything they can to get chats going. It's a new source of data to sell to data brokers.
Did a Google engineer make his way to Spotify
No.
On another note: Apple Music migration tool will finally help Spotify users switch
Not saying it’s the best alternative, but at least there’s one escape route being built.
Hot take: buy your music instead—direct from the artist whenever possible, or start building your collection from whatever you can find at a thrift store.
Trying to do the same evil move as instagram to hook up people on your platform but you forgot you are a music streaming app 💀
Just finished a Tidal trial and really liked it. Then I found out it's owned by Block who owns Square. Jack Dorsey is CEO of Block.
How has nobody used to mention that this ALREADY used to be a feature they had before they killed it. I remember in high school me and the girl I was dating used to send eachother playlists. I didn't even know spotify had killed the feature until I went looking for one of those playlists in my inbox that used to be there.
finally a discord alternative
Mhmm. Still waiting for lossless…..
I noped the hell out of Spotify when I found out it was hosting the Joe Rogan podcast. It's only enshittified even more since. And now this.
Tidal is much better anyway
Qobuz too. High-res audio, full CD booklets, metadata with full credits, pays the artists more, European but not run by Daniel Ek.