Technology

Stop ministers using VPNs to watch child porn.

Told!

Stop ministers making laws to... why the fuck they even do this bullshit? They are a government, they know everything about everyone even without such primitive control methods.

Dame Rachel de Souza told BBC Newsnight it was "absolutely a loophole that needs closing" and called for age verification on VPNs.

Saw that coming. Can’t have the populace living their lives without constant, repressive government scrutiny.

It’s a bit like “my kids will only eat chocolate” and the therapist’s response “where are they getting the chocolate from?”. If the kids are using VPNs then where are they getting the money for the VPN from? Is this parental consent?

You ban something, and people will always find a way around it. Always.

Dame Rachel told BBC Newsnight: "Of course, we need age verification on VPNs - it's absolutely a loophole that needs closing and that's one of my major recommendations."

If this fucker had any idea what VPN even stood for they'd realize how fuckin stupid this statement is...

Ya! Let them watch all that violence on Netflix instead!

Why are the kids technologically illiterate and undersexed until it comes to matters of government control? I'm not usually into tin foil hats, but this doesn't feel like the kids are the primary concern here.

If they were really after kids watching porn (or even porn in general) it would be technically somewhat simple to force ISPs to provide filters on their end as a subscription service. I'm pretty sure I've even heard that kind of services in the past. Make it even opt-out if you really want to.

That way ISPs would just ban everything from pornhub and others unless you spesifically want it allowed or even provide a portal where you could block reddit, twitter, tumblr or whatever you wish on your account. That kind of technology already exists and it's used on many corporate setups.

There's obviously ways around that, but there's no technical way to block every possible way to move bits between computers. Even if they would shut down the whole internet there's still ways to build mesh-networks or even buy USB-drives from a shady alley.

But as we all know, it's not about porn and not about children.

Clearly it's a parental problem to determine if the VPN they are buying for their kids is being used to wank off, but apparently this party of 'liberty' has an unhealthy obsession with monitoring our children's genitalia these days.

How about parent your children?

What about the crappy late night TV channels with the women waving a cordless house phone like it's 1996?

I'm perfectly able to watch porn because I'm 45, but I refuse to interact with any of this prove your age bollocks because I know full well that "we won't store your details" and "we will share your details with 1284 trusted data partners" are the same picture.

How much you wanna bet the ministers use VPN to watch porn as well?

I think the best way to solve this is to not have kids in the first place.

Yeah, it's just all these children with their bank accounts paying for their VPN subscriptions doing it all... Do they think we're that stupid? Don't answer that. 😔

FYI, with Mullvad VPN set to UK, sites that require age verification:

• pornhub.com
• youporn.com
• redtube.com
• porn.com
• bellesa.co
• tube8.com
• thisvid.com
• quorno.com

Sites tha do NOT require age verification:

• hqporner.com
• xhamster.com
• youjizz.com
• alohatube.com
• qqqporn.com
• xnxx.com
• xcafe.com
• helloporn.co
• go.porn
• cartoonporn.pro

And xvideos.com is a bit special since it shows you the thumbnails of porn videos but won't let you play them.

But we need to stop VPNs! Think of the whole two children that have VPNs! What if instead of just going to the half of the sites that don't verify age, they figure out how to use a VPN?! Oh the humanity!

Yeah, UK wants to de-anonymize VPN users as the next step in their attack on free speech. It is laughable to think this is about anything else.

This has nothing to do with porn or protecting children. It's a backdoor way to attach names and faces to VPN usage so movie and music studios can sue specific people for torrenting. They failed in bringing lawsuits previously because they couldn't pin point the piracy to specific individuals. I would bet money that the ministers leading this charge have ties to groups in the movie and music industry. The UK will be the testbed before the full rollout in the EU and then worldwide.

Everyone’s scared of Reform getting in and yet Reform are the only ones promising to reverse all this. All this is done based off the back of a 2016 survey where parents said they were worried about kids watching porn on the internet, but the survey gave no indication of what a solution would look like and gave no mention to online age verification and banning VPNs.

Stop fucking but make children.

Streisand effect: the BBC is telling every last kid that VPN is exactly the way to circumvent the prohibition.

if the strategy is to tell children to stop circumventing the rules with a workaround, couldn’t the original messaging just have been “talk to your children about not watching porn”

it’s so obvious the identification laws have nothing to do with protecting children from porn and everything to do with Big Brother surveillance

This is fascists using "think of the children" to violate everyone's online privacy and spy on everyone worldwide.

Let's say they do. So people start using non UK VPNs. So you need age verification for any Internet access? For any computer or phone that could connect to the Internet?

Moronic bit is atlast asking parents to be responsible

I remember when my step-son was a teenager. I didn't care that he watched porn. I cared that he infected the family PC with viruses and malware trying to watch porn.

When they effectively make the internet a dangerous place, Usenet will rise from the darkness. P2P will also always exist and these politicians dont understand computer math, so a lot of what they're trying to accomplish is bound to fail.

Ok one question: Why do we have to protect children from porn if they've already gotten exposed to it?

Children aren't using VPNs. Also I am going to say this: it doesn't matter that fucking much. I watched porn before I was 18. It didn't really do much to me. It did not give me unrealistic expectations of women. What did affect me were entirely unrelated stuff. Which is why I do need therapy and sexual therapy, but it wasnt the porn. It was people like that fucker.

Banning Pornhub makes them use the VPNs in the first place.