But her emails!!!!
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They didn't really care about her emails with that statement, it was her pronoun which was the problem they were crying about.
I'd say 50/50 because she's a woman and a Democrat.
Good thing she never wore a tan suit or used the wrong mustard, then Republicans would have done something drastic like storm the Capitol building!
I mean, her politics are also pretty shit.
Just, the shit parts they likely agree with.
They actually love a War Hawk like Clinton, they just hate admitting it because, exactly, she's a woman and a Democrat.
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No heads will roll. What most stories miss is that the main reason they didn't use official channels for this (and most likely many of their other conversations as well) is that they don't want to comply with the Federal Records Act. They don't want there to be a record of a lot of the shit they're saying and doing and plan to do.
Trump and his regime’s cabinet are truly evil and rotten to their core.
Yeah, I know why the guy came clean, but it would have been so much more useful if we stayed on the chat. Really a big missed opportunity.
OTOH he did stay on it as long as he could while still being able to protect himself by saying he didn't think it could be real and most likely a scam or attempt to entrap, plus the thread was basically over by then anyway.
Yep. If he stayed on the chat too long he would have been arrested for espionage and imprisoned for life.
The trump regime’s gross incompetence put him in a dangerous position.
Meanwhile, I suspect that someone on the inside quietly looped the journalist into the group as a way to expose what's been going on. If so, that person is in grave danger.
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This was literally in the instructional videos that Heritage made for new Trump staffers under Project2025. To do as little as possible that complies with the Federal Records Act. This is that video.
Devil's Advocate Hot Take:
This is an expression of power. An intentional leak to show that "We get to break rules, and you cannot." We see it as incompetence and abject hypocrisy, but it could be a purposeful leak because they don't care about being seen as hypocrites, they are about showing us they can get away with it. It could also be a Trial Balloon about the kind of wars they intend to wage.
/takes off tinfoil hat
I really think they really are just this stupid, but I think its at least worthwhile to consider the alternative, because a lot of what conservatives do is about using hypocrisy as a weapon and expression of power over others. They want us getting angry about such things, so they can can be cool and collected and say that we're overreacting because they're so calm while chuckling and sneering at us.
"But her emails!" Yeah they don't actually give a shit, they may just want to show they can get away with it. Much like Trump rejecting using a government issued cell phone in his first term and Bush "losing" millions of emails.
This is an expression of power. An intentional leak to show that “We get to break rules, and you cannot.”
Hanlon's razor applies I think:
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence or stupidity"
I really think they really are just this stupid
Yep. They fired all the adults that think things through and provide rigor for a reason so the only people left are children doing whatever they want ignorant of the consequences.
Exactly. If they had wanted to intentionally leak classified information in order to move the overton window or something, they would have done it differently. They wouldn't have had the VP disagreeing with Trump. They wouldn't have actually leaked serious classified information, including the name of an active CIA officer. They wouldn't have leaked it to the editor in chief of the Atlantic.
They fired all the adults that think things through and provide rigor for a reason so the only people left are children doing whatever they want ignorant of the consequences.
For example, they fired anyone who would otherwise have said "Folks, this is not an appropriate communications tool for classified information. This needs to be shared in a SCIF".
Anybody who knows better also knows to keep their mouth shut if they want to keep their job in this admin. And even if keeping their job isn't their priority, they know that if they speak up they risk being scapegoated, hung out to dry, and possibly killed by MAGA loyalists for daring to confront the king.
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There is exactly one political party that cares about hypocrisy.
And it ain't the Republicans.
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As long as we're putting on our tinfoil hats, it's also possible that this was an intentional action taken against The Atlantic (or against Jeffrey Goldberg in particular). Trump's admin has plenty of reasons to want to silence that publication, and might've hoped that by "accidentally" giving Goldberg access, they could entrap him into committing a crime (mishandling of classified material, espionage, etc).
With a little cooperation from the AG's office, presto! You've got one of your biggest critics in jail, and sent a message to other would-be whistleblowers.
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Congress: Somebody should really do something to rein this administration in!
The horrific absurdity is that even Trump was beginning sentences with "Somebody should ..." AFTER he became president.
They are too used to the conspiracy-theorist, "humble-truth-finder" mindset EVEN when they are at the top.
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Remember in 2016 when the entire magat crowd screamed that Hillary should be locked up for using a private, secure server that was only accessible to authorized individuals?
Surely they won't be hypocrites and try to brush this under the rug, or worse try to blame the editor-in-chief who had no desire to get wrapped up in this.
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I'm shocked that the administration of "Put the big boxes of top secret docs under the bathroom chandelier" would mishandle secret war plans.
Imagine that. You have unqualified amateurs in important government positions, and they don't know what they're doing.
But they claim that they know better than the actual experts they displace
The really sad thing is that in this scenario only Republicans matter. As long as they keep treating Trump as some kind of god-emperor, nothing will happen.
I was going to say "treating him as a king", but England and Canada have kings and would never put up with this kind of shit from a king. England hasn't put up with kings acting this way since the Magna Carta was signed.
Make it happen Senate. It's literally your job. So fucking do it
From alcoholics, to heroin addicts, to ketamine fueled Nazis, the Trump administration is running like a well oiled crack addict machine.
That tracks with the Third Reich, actually
The so-called experts on Trump over at the Atlantic wrote a long and boring article on my cellphone usage that is so incorrect I do not have time here to correct it. I only use Government Phones, and have only one seldom used government cell phone. Story is soooo wrong!
--@RealDonaldTrump
Way too coherent to be real.
Also, he refused to use a government phone in his first term.
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It’s hard to tell whether this is whether this is real or not… I’m going to lean “not” due to the low amount of misused capitals, and staying on topic.
Replace Atlantic with NY Times, and this one is real: https://www.thetrumparchive.com/?searchbox=%22government+phones%22
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It's OK! He LEARNED his Lesson! Again!
-Susan Collins!
Hegseth is now saying it didn't actually happen, matching their incompetence with dishonesty, the tone of this "merit based" administration
And just like that, everyone has stopped talking about hillary clintons emails.
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Democrats..."Why I oughta...If I only...boy oh boy are you ever...sigh".
Living in the imperial core where a chat error is far bigger scandal than a genocide.
well said. I'm surprised at the reaction towards this specific event.
the administration is purging the federal government, rerouting tens of thousands of federal agents to enforce immigration (literally 80% of ATF is now focused on immigration. DEA, FBI, IRS, and more are all being recruited to help with immigration), illegally ignoring court orders, using a Stasi-like group of unmarked federal agents to intimidate with threats of criminal prosecution and force people into compliance (look at what happened at the SS office or the non-profit U.S. Institute of Peace), giving executive orders that are blatantly and explicitly unconstitutional (like the one to end birthright citizenship)
that isn't even starting to mention the genocide happening in Palestine that is not only being condoned but openly embraced. we are arresting and attempting to deport individuals whose only crime is that they are anti-Israel. permanent residents are being denied entry into the country because they have a photo of a Hezbollah leader on their phone
the administration is using coercion and threats to force over 60 universities (Colombia being the most visible) to change the things they are teach, abandon certain policies, suppress student speech, and dramatically increase police presence. all in the name of fighting "anti-semitism"
it has only been a couple of months and right now Congress is making a stink about a text message
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They only have themselves to blame. If you're actively destroying OPSEC you have no reason to fucking cry.
The worst thing is aside from being inept and careless, there is no chance they aren't selling secrets to anyone willing to pay.
Cue schumer saying that we shouldn't be hasty and should focus on bipartisan bills instead.
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I agree with those who think nothing will happen. Screw ups are an everyday thing for these clowns.
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I think the important thing here is to not get distracted and focus on what's really important:
Hillary's emails.
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"should" is the key word. Trump should be in prison but he's not.
Heads should roll? Maybe, if you ask nicely, the French may share some equipment and experience.
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