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After returning from Alaska on Saturday, Vladimir Putin told top officials assembled in the Kremlin that his summit with Donald Trump had “brought us closer to the necessary solutions”.

Those solutions, Putin stressed, involve Ukraine’s capitulation to the maximalist demands that prompted his 2022 invasion. “Settling these root causes [for the war] must be the foundation for a settlement,” he said.

The extraordinary meeting at Anchorage’s Elmendorf Air Force base has ended Putin’s pariah status and brought Washington’s stance on the war closer to Moscow’s.

And Putin did not need to budge an inch.

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[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 65 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Trump is not authorized to negotiate on behalf of Ukraine… full stop. Anything that happened in Alaska was solely for show and for Trump to get his updated marching orders from Putin.

[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It was to put pressure on Ukraine and Europe and to make them look like warmongers, when muskovites are reasonable and just want to end this war.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is amazing that this optic even exists, let alone that it is popular with millions of people.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 weeks ago

Propaganda works. And it works especially well on stupid people.

Anything that happened in Alaska was solely for show ~~and for Trump to get his updated marching orders from Putin.~~

Trump and Putin both know how to use the phone. This shit was 100% theater. Of the absurd.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 4 weeks ago

Something about Trump not being Ukrainian or the Ukrainian president or part of their government.

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 61 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump is a Russian puppet and Putin is a war criminal.

The fact that Putin wasn’t arrested immediately when he stepped foot on American soil shows you just how badly he’s grabbing Trump by the pussy to get what he wants.

I’m hoping the EU holds out for more with Ukraine. America is Russias little cuck bitch at this point and Trump will give him whatever he wants without question.

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (5 children)

My question is, how long before Trump is declared a war criminal by other countries? Why aren’t other countries trying to bring true justice to him?…. My personal answer is that there isn’t anymore true justice.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Pretty much every President since Roosevelt can be argued to have been a war criminal, so I don't see why countries would suddenly start holding the US accountable.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

Previous presidents' war crimes didn't crash the entire global economy. Want people to care? Fuck with their money.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 4 weeks ago

I mean yeah but Trump is being a real dick about it.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 1 month ago

My personal answer is that there isn’t anymore true justice.

Never was. Your favorite US president was likely a war criminal.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What justice was served by the Trail of Tears? Or by the MOVE bombing? Rainbow Farm?

Justice has always been one sided.

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Damn good points. Justice is through their eyes not the public’s

[–] Tehbaz@lemmy.wtf 4 points 1 month ago

Americans voted this asshole into power, if the rest of the world had any backbone we would be isolating the US from international trade via harsh sanctions & retaliatory tariffs, so once unemployment hits great depression levels in the US the people would stand up and solve the problem themselves.

Instead, countries like mine are lining up to kiss his ass because our leaders are neo-liberal pussies who are bought by the same ownership class as the American Democrats, and thus can't fathom the idea of a slight drop in profit.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

They're cowards and so theyll probably do it only once he's lost power.

[–] Nualkris@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Everybody plays trump. Everybody is smarter than trump.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Except all the American institutions that have capitulated one by one.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

They're smarter too, just enfeebled by internal corruption and complacency.

"The best lack all conviction, and the worst are full of passionate intensity."

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Outplayed him because Trump is a bitch and a sell out.

[–] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He who drinks with the enemy while his ally bleeds is no hero but a fool. You grant him honor while he seeks to burn your and your ally’s home. No word of peace holds meaning while his sword is still raised against those who stand with you.

[–] fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Small hands can’t negotiate.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 16 points 1 month ago

This was a staff meeting / performance review. Pootie wanted to update Agent Krasnov on his next assignment, and Agent Krasnov wanted to show off his toys.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

How to outplay Trump:

"No"

[–] marsza@lemmy.cafe 15 points 1 month ago

The entire thing was just Trump getting new instructions

[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago

What happened to the sanctions if Russia didn't agree to a ceasefire?

TACO

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 month ago

Let's face it, a not-very-bright dog could outsmart Trump.

So many easily-pushed buttons: narcissism, cowardice, greed.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Release the Trump/Epstein files

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Outplayed? No, took a couple back shots yes!

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 12 points 1 month ago

At the risk of being redundant, Putin isn't outplaying Krasnov; Putin outplayed America by putting Krasnov in charge and is now cashing in.

[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 1 month ago

"No I won't do that"

"Foiled again!"

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago
[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Of course Putin doesn't need to budge, Trump is his stooge. The orange skidmark was tripping over himself to fellate him.

He didn’t even play him, just asked him to bend over and Trump grabbed his ankles

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 2 points 4 weeks ago

I thought he was ruzzian for the longest time. But it turns out his family comes from Germany and Scotland. Only Melania is from Slovenia... Again not ruzzian. So why do they capitulate to putin is beyond me.