1. Be civil
No trolling, bigotry or other insulting / annoying behaviour
2. No politics
This is non-politics community. For political memes please go to !politicalmemes@lemmy.world
3. No recent reposts
Check for reposts when posting a meme, you can only repost after 1 month
4. No bots
No bots without the express approval of the mods or the admins
5. No Spam/Ads/AI Slop
No advertisements or spam. This is an instance rule and the only way to live. We also consider AI slop to be spam in this community and is subject to removal.
A collection of some classic Lemmy memes for your enjoyment
Kawaii
Just a few days ago, it hit me on some new level that we fucking NUCLEAR BOMBED a country. TWICE.
We are literally the only country that has done that. And it's just sort-of this fun footnote of history. "Fine, maybe that was a whoopsie, but blah blah blah something about land invasion blah blah blah. Our baaaaad!"
In the last days of WW2, the Japanese military were getting children to make sharpened bamboo spears and training those children to attack American soldiers on sight. The elderly and women were told that they should kill themselves before potentially coming under American control.
The Japanese civilian population had been indoctrinated into the belief that western soldiers were absolute monsters who would carry out unspeakable acts on them should they become prisoners (ironic considering the IJA/Ns actions during the conflict).
In the battle of Saipan, hundreds of mothers leapt from cliffs with their babies in their arms to evade capture, men would slit their children's throats and booby trapped the bodies to injure Americans and then themselves fought relentlessly, before mostly killing themselves or being killed to prevent capture.
The level of blood shed at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was unprecedented but it did in fact save untold Japanese civilian and American soldiers' lives.
Crucially, even after the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima Japanese High Command still refused to surrender.
*edit: all you 4edgy5me America Bad commenters really need to do some reading about Japanese atrocities during the Pacific War here are some suggestions:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_Massacre
Bombing Japan = good?
It's literally the trolley problem writ large. Do you kill a few hundred thousand civilians to prevent the deaths of probably several million.
But thats dishonest. It assumes that:
The nuking of Japan was the reason they surrendered
The nukes were gauranteed to make then surrender.
Like would it still have been justified if Japan hadnt surrendered? Then youve committed an atrocity for no reason.
Or what about if it was a different atrocity? Would tourturing a few hundred thousand Japanese to death be justified for the same reason?
I used to think along the lines of this too until I visited the Hiroshima Peace Memorial where they tell you about all the ways the US min-maxed the bomb to kill as many people as possible and did it truly as an experiment.
Well, idk much about history and politics and war, so I'm just gonna trust 'Muricans claiming they need to bomb other countries to bring peace to the world
What part of @Denjin@feddit.uk's statement do you disagree with?
In the last days of WW2, the Japanese military were getting children to make sharpened bamboo spears and training those children to attack American soldiers on sight. The elderly and women were told that they should kill themselves before potentially coming under American control.
The Japanese civilian population had been indoctrinated into the belief that western soldiers were absolute monsters who would carry out unspeakable acts on them should they become prisoners (ironic considering the IJA/Ns actions during the conflict).
In the battle of Saipan, hundreds of mothers leapt from cliffs with their babies in their arms to evade capture, men would slit their children's throats and booby trapped the bodies to injure Americans and then themselves fought relentlessly, before mostly killing themselves or being killed to prevent capture.
The level of blood shed at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was unprecedented but it did in fact save untold Japanese civilian and American soldiers' lives.
Crucially, even after the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima Japanese High Command still refused to surrender.
The Allies had just fought the Battle of Okinawa, the bloodiest battle of the Pacific Theater.
Have you ever even read any of the history of the proposed plan for the invasion of mainland Japan and the casualty estimates? How about the reasoning for opposing the Imperial Japanese Government?
Or Is this your opportunity to virtue signal to people on the internet by implying Americans are murderous pigs and the jApAnEsE dId NoThInG wRoNg?
Americans ***ARE ***murderous pigs, and we haven't changed in the decades since.
As someone from the country that's been conquered by japan: absolutely yes.
more like least path of resistance to peace.
In context, against the Imperial Japanese Government, unfortunately, yes.
The Japanese civilian population had been indoctrinated into the belief that western soldiers were absolute monsters who would carry out unspeakable acts on them
We nuked them twice after carrying out a campaign of what we cozily referred to as "moral bombing", where we targeted civilian populations to kill the families of soldiers.
We ARE absolute monsters.
The only fair way to solve this is going to be for someone to nuke us for nuking Japan, then someone needs to nuke whomever nukes us, etc...until everyone gets nuked. Then we can get along.
I mean Japan and the US have a pretty solid relationship now, it's just internet weirdos who can't get along, which is probably why a lot of us are on the internet in the first place.
Those Palestinian children were going to be used to populate the schools and hospitals so they can't be bombed. Better starve them.
France nuclear bombed Algeria lots of times and nobody makes such a big deal of it.
Maybe because instead of dropping them on cities they dropped them in the Sahara desert?
TIL.
We are literally the only country
Yeah that's why I hate the nationalist "we" that you're using here. I didn't have shit to do with nuking japan. Zero respect for those terrorists.
For what it's worth, SeeU is South Korean, not Japanese.
These kinda memes tend to rely on passive prejudice and ignorance to hit.
Japanese mythology was pretty gnarly even before the nukes.
The mythology of every state is inherently violence and anti-human.
Someone tell trump nuclear weapons are DEI and removing them will get him his Nobel peace prize!
Someone tell him they're underaged girls and he'll go...fuck them? I don't know, I didn't think the analogy through, but he's a pedophile.
Must have hit the pixel limit for the month.
This reminds me of the graph showing nuclear fallout from Chernobyl in the air and the presence of Hentai.
Or the crime activity in Chicago vs yoghurt sales in Norway.
Same happened to culture in western countries, it just looks different and feels natural to us.
Yeah, sure. Let's forget about Unit 731, genocide policy in China, union with nazi Germany, annual Yasukuni shrine rutuals, Shintoism, sick nationalism, etc.
https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202408/15/WS66be00dea3104e74fddba322.html
https://virtualworkersofamerica.com/japans-obsession-with-nazi-related-anime/
I mean... It was essentially the occupation that did it. The Americans effectively colonised Japan after the war, wiping away the previous culture and going "No, you believe THIS now. You get to keep the Emperor because I'm feeling nice, but if there's a part of your culture I don't like, I'm getting rid of it whether you like it or not".
...Turns out there was quite a lot of Japanese culture at the time that needed wiping out, and the Americans were very effective at doing it.
It's kinda interesting how two different approaches to conquering ex-authoritarian states concluded. In Germany, it was all about collective guilt and confronting the German people about the holocaust. In Japan? Not so much. They kinda just swept all those atrocities under the rug with a "That was the old me! This is the new me, right? I did what you wanted Mr America! I'm on your side now!". Maybe it was the fact that Japan was conquered wholesale by the US and could be put together as a more cohesive front against the Communist Chinese, whereas Germany was split into two and needed to be kept in line to avoid any grumblings about being Communist?
There is something about these cross-eyed anime girls that makes me irrationally angry…
