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zyklon B?,mustard gas.
canceron should have been a dead giveaway
Which ones are meant
Teflon freon(CFC)...
Teflon itself is quite good, getting it to stick to places is the problem.
In Denmark there was until very recently a factory doing something with teflon. That shit got launched out the chimney and just rained down everywhere.
free of charge?
Nah, Dupont invoiced everyone.
monsanto tactics
Yeah, every factory that does "something" with Teflon probably wants to stick it to things, which are the problematic chemicals, not Teflon itself.
Quite good, if you avoid the fact it's literally everywhere including the atmosphere, doesn't break down, and causes cancer. But who cares about such little things like cancer causing rain...
Teflon, on it's own is safe, the problem are the chemicals used to produce it.
Again, that's from getting it to stick to things. The smaller PTFE chemicals that make it possible to suspend Teflon in water are the problem.
It's also what makes it cheap. Making Teflon other ways is much more expensive.
Teflon is the brand name for for the chemical Polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE). Making PTFE requires PFAS, which are the toxic part. Think of PFAS as little bits of chain varying lengths that get strung together to make the larger PTFE molecule.
The argument you're making sounds similar to something like "Fossil Fuels are safe, it's just the CO2 that's dangerous." PFAS contaminated water being released to the environment is an unavoidable by produce of making Teflon. You can only make Teflon as a solid without suspending the PFAS in water first.
Here's a pretty good video about the history, manufacturing process, and toxicity.
There is one important note: you won't get cancer from the Teflon in your pans. You get it from the PFAS used to produce the pans. This means you don't have to throw out all your pans, as if they were made from lead and asbestos. Just make sure not to buy new ones with Teflon.
The argument you're making sounds similar to something like "Fossil Fuels are safe, it's just the CO2 that's dangerous."
I didn't read it that way at all. Their argument sounds more like "there's nuance that you're glossing over."
It seems that we all agree PFAS are generally nasty chemicals, some worse than others. Teflon (polytetrafluoroethylene) is just one of the "nicer" ones.
You can't make teflon without the PFAS though. It's like saying AIDS is completely different than HIV
no it's more like saying "desalinated water is fine, it's the brine that's problematic."
which is true.
and the same goes for teflon:
the PFAS are toxic, not teflon itself.
glossing over that distinction is disingenuous...
yes, you can't make one without the other, true, but the end product is not toxic. that's an important difference you can't just ignore in order to say teflon is toxic, because a requisite material in (cheap) production is toxic.
because that's like saying desalinated water is toxic, just because brine is toxic..which is obviously ridiculous.
It's releasing a high amount of micro and nano plastics, and those are linked to different health issues including cancer.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0048969724027232
our findings suggest that PTFE-MPs-associated toxicity may be specifically linked to the activation of the ERK pathway, which ultimately induces oxidative stress and inflammation.
Teflon doesn't cause cancer.
I mean, it might... but we haven't shown it does.
teflon itself is proved safe. its production is what's causing all the problems.
I had a waterproofing spray that said on it "Completely nontoxic ^when ^dry"
It's releasing a high amount of micro and nano plastics, and those are linked to different health issues including cancer.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0048969724027232
our findings suggest that PTFE-MPs-associated toxicity may be specifically linked to the activation of the ERK pathway, which ultimately induces oxidative stress and inflammation.
Oxidative stress and inflammation is cancer?
At least 40% of human cancers are associated with aberrant ERK pathway activity (ERKp).
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41698-024-00554-5
ERK expression is critical for development and their hyperactivation plays a major role in cancer development and progression.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7027163/
Prolonged oxidative stress contributes to cancer initiation and progression through several biological mechanisms.
https://biologyinsights.com/oxidative-stress-and-cancer-whats-the-connection/
Oxidative stress, characterized by the production of reactive oxygen species (ROS) within cells, plays a critical role in the development of cancer by affecting genomic stability and signaling pathways within the cellular microenvironment.
https://biosignaling.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12964-023-01398-5
Inflammation predisposes to the development of cancer and promotes all stages of tumorigenesis.
So as much as breathing, coffee and the sun cause cancer?
In the same way Asbestos is a great material, just one small problem
Asbestos itself is toxic. Teflon is inert.
We are too weak for the miracle of asbestos.
Teflon is just the brand name. I believe itβs called Polytetrafluorethylene, thus ending in ne :)
Known also as PFAS or forever chemicals
Thank dog, we're saved
SW42 shall forever be remembered a hero, who saved the world from a dark path
Nylon? To many things end with on.
funnily enough, that is a DuPont thing, but hasn't find its way into everyone's blood yet.
that is a DuPont thing, but hasn't find its way into everyone's blood yet.
Umm.. I've some bad news for you.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160412024003374
welp, guess this meme is even more true then.
You're just not trying hard enough, it took me a while but i managed to jam it in there (very little room in my veins because of all the microplastics)
Now do it with Lycra.
Yeah, that's why I chose it haha.
Does Teflon explain MAGA?
Β―\_(γ)_/Β―
Nah, I'm betting on plain old lead.
Watermelon?
Lethal when breathed in.