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As an anarchist who is opposed to accelerationionism, it's frustrating how many people see it as an ideology that wants the state to immediately collapse.
I've had multiple arguments with liberals who say I'm not a real anarchist because I want pragmatic short-term progressive solutions like Medicare for all.
So yeah, I'm not wanting to condemn people to death for my ideology. Got me! (Not you, PugJesus)
I like to point people to Desert by Anonymous. It talks about how the plan should really be waiting for the State to recede as collapse progresses, and finding the spaces left behind where theres room for mutual aid based organization.
I like that. It turns your attention to what's in front of you, rather than waiting for the mythical Revolution we'll likely never see.
I’d much rather build systems that provide for people so we can all watch the old world crumble from a comfy chair with plenty of snacks.
Who am I kidding, I don’t want a society; people are too troublesome.
I'm of two minds about it. On the one hand I am tired of the unnecessary suffering that is common in the richest country in the history of the Earth. A step in the right direction is better than nothing.
Or is it? Every time we increase the social safety net, our righteous anger subsides. We stop boycotting, protesting, striking, organizing, etc, because faith in the system is restored. And then we delay the necessary work of dismantling this system that is based on greed and exploitation. Inevitably, the oligarchs bide their time and then strip away rights and economic opportunity as soon as we stop paying attention.
"Things getting worse will make people swap to MY side!" has a terrible track record.
Sure, but this doesn't address the problem I'm noting above. We fought hard for worker's rights, so they granted them and then dismantled/neutered the unions. Public outcry forced the fracture of Standard Oil and now the monopolies are worse than ever. It's one step forward and two steps back.
Some ideologies want to be the boot pressing down on other’s necks and set the world on fire.
The rest aren’t so bad compared to that.
I like this comment.
As much as I crap on certain leftists, they still have the ideology "I wish people were slightly more kinder" and I would love their ideology to be accepted common sense rather than current one.
I would be just as happier if they were considered the new "centrists." And current right-wing considered far, far extreme.
would love their ideology to be accepted common sense rather than current one
The crazy thing is that the current economic system we utilize isn't considered nonsensical.
I guess an economic system that requires infinite growth made a bit more sense during the age of discovery, when people were actively finding new continents to exploit. One would think that now we've definitively concluded we inhabit a closed system with a finite amount of natural resources, maybe just maybe we could evolve our economic system to reflect that?
My favorite part is this is exactly what the dems are doing with Trump, their startegy since the beginning was not to stop Trump and just wait for him to ruin the country enough that people vote for them again. They were saying as much earlier in the year too. Hilarious to see how they called all their detractors accelerationist before deciding to join in.
Stupidity knows no ideological borders, it would seem
no? literally no leftists side with maga (except for maga communism, but that's fringe).
They are all using public transport. Already a win.
I don’t know what’s coming after this; better, worse, another version of the same.
I’m just tired of waiting for the other shoe to drop.
My money is on worse. The billionaire class has the means to take full control if society were to collapse and form it in their interest.
Even if a specific currency became meaningless, they'd still have wealth to transfer to whatever currency isn't.
Oh and to follow on my last comment, I know there's going to be widespread bloodshed. I'm not blind to that; neither do I welcome it. I know it because gestures widely at human history.
If post-apocalyptic media has taught us anything, it's that the same systems will rise again, only now they are even more warped and fucked up than they were before the apocalypse.
Many of those people will not have developed political reasoning, and will consider themselves "apolitical" due to having never investigated their own political viewpoints...
Or worse, they'll consider themselves "objective" when it comes to politics, claiming they just know when something is true, or good for people.
Let me dream god damn it, its the closest I have for a hope for a better future
"We can still improv...."
No....
No shut up
My ideology is leaving each other the hell alone.
What if the 'other' is building a nuke? What if they refuse to vaccinate and are a notch away from creating a new superbug that will likely kill you? What if they're pumping pollution into the air and water and maximizing climate change? What if they're raping and violently torturing children?
What if you need them to maintain your food supply, electricity, medical care, etc? What if you need the local 'other' to back you up if another more distant 'other' decides it going to kill you and take your land?
I say this as a heavily individualist minded person myself: You can't operate a worthwhile society as a collection of islands. You need cooperation.
It would be better to eradicate spacetime itself with a vacuum decay event than to allow a completely brutal "every man for themselves" world to continue existing. Pointless suffering.
Once, I nihilistically mentioned to my friend that “I welcome the coming inevitable nuclear holocaust.” His reply was something that I will never forget: “I don’t think you realize what nuclear war entails.”
I haven’t wished for the end of the world since.
