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Ten years after the Supreme Court extended marriage rights to same-sex couples nationwide, the justices this fall will consider for the first time whether to take up a case that explicitly asks them to overturn that decision.

Kim Davis, the former Kentucky county clerk who was jailed for six days in 2015 after refusing to issue marriage licenses to a gay couple on religious grounds, is appealing a $100,000 jury verdict for emotional damages plus $260,000 for attorneys fees.

In a petition for writ of certiorari filed last month, Davis argues First Amendment protection for free exercise of religion immunizes her from personal liability for the denial of marriage licenses.

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[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 267 points 3 days ago (8 children)

You're not free to enforce your religion on others as a public servant.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 184 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes you are. Crime is legal now as long as you’re a conservative

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[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 96 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Supreme Court: We're public servants and we're free to enforce our religion on others.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago

Enter Trump

Now it is!

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[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 85 points 3 days ago (4 children)

If they're going to open the door to any government employee being able to refuse to do their job as directed on religious grounds, this country is going to grind to a halt.

Just kidding, we all know that with the current court and administration, this will only allow people with the "right" religion to refuse.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 3 days ago

An in-group that the law protects but does not bind, and an out-group that the law binds but does not protect. Conservatism in a nutshell.

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[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 74 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Could we just get government out of the marriage game? It seems to be the source of all the problems. They simply shouldn't care.

Even if we don't this is such a simple concept: Marriage is a contract. The requirements for a contract is consenting adults. How can they make gender determine who can sign a contract? That would be unreasonable.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think you're second point is more important. The religious part of marriage is actually meaningless in the eyes of the law even today, you still need to apply for a marriage certificate with the government.

I think we just need to extend that to just be a cohabitation/shared asset contract for any two+ people. It makes a lot of legal sense to have a defined "family unit" for medical/legal/financial reasons, but it shouldn't overlap with religious concepts.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 days ago

Religion is a monstrous evil.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 20 points 3 days ago (9 children)

But Jesus said gays bad!

He didn't say anything about love!

Oh, wait...

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[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

But it's stress, pain and suffering for those they don't like!!

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 68 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Of course they are. And of course that stupid bitch Kim Davis is involved.

Also: how could Joe Biden and Kamala Harris do this to us?

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Also: really glad protest voters sat this one out, I can't begin to imagine how much worse this would be under Kamala /s

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[–] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 64 points 3 days ago

Can this bitch just fucking die already? I'm tired of seeing her face in the news every couple years

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 61 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Who is the injured party here? She clearly refused to do her job.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago

You don't understand, she was forced to undergo social contact with... shudder GAYS!

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Injured parties are for legal systems that actually care about the truth.

See several of the recent Supreme Court cases with astroturf plaintiffs and made up defendants.

Because it's super easy to get the ruling you want when no one is on the other side to call bullshit on your claims.

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[–] etherphon@midwest.social 61 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What a horrible, terrible, evil piece of shit of a person. A lot of people serve other people they don't like every day, it's called having a fucking job, no need to make a federal fucking case out of it you stupid selfish childish pious asshole.

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[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 3 days ago

What a hateful piece of shit.

[–] MrShankles@reddthat.com 49 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Shocked, I tell you! Shocked!

Also, what's going on with the Epstein Files? Ya know, while we're on the subject of "Dead Cat Theory"

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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You work for the government, you are acting as the government, paid for by taxes from your constituents.

You do not get to decide which laws to follow. Fuck off Kim.

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago

Another 3 to 6 decision then. It's getting kind of repetitive.

[–] CrackedLinuxISO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can we get someone who believes in Jakub elected as county clerk somewhere in the US South? Then they can deny marriage licenses to all the white people for being inhuman.

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yooooo.... This bitch is still doing the same, heinous shit? A decade later? Why don't these pieces of shit just get fucking lives or hobbies or something? They're like goddamned ghouls, hanging around and smelling of shit. Like. Fuck. GO AWAY.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Methinks she’s being funded by those organizations.

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[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago

Fuck. Not this asshole again. She should have faded into obscurity and poverty by now.

[–] Kwyjibo1@lemmy.myserv.one 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But her divorces and multiple marriages are fine.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Petition the court to allow us to stone her to death because the Bible says so.

[–] KindnessisPunk@piefed.ca 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is how it goes people, either everyone gets rights or no one gets rights.

They come for the Trans people first, how long until the come for you.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Same shit with immigration. First they say they are only going after the violent criminals and "bad hombres". Now they are racially profiling the people they snatch off the street in unmarked vans. Only a matter of time before the pool of "bad actors" expands to the political opposition.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 days ago

"Davis said she's been "called Hitler, I’ve been called [a] hypocrite, I’ve been called a homophobe."

"I’ve been called things and names that I didn’t even say when I was in the world. Those names don’t hurt me," Davis said. "What probably hurt me the worst is when someone tells me that my God does not love me or that my God is not happy with me, that I am a hypocrite of a Christian.""

Lmao, so you don't mind being called Hitler, but being called a fake Christian - now that's insulting! Tells you everything you need to know

[–] shplane@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

Depressing as hell but honestly, I’m surprised it took this long.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

Would this be a record turnaround for revoking a group's rights?

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (10 children)

So could she have refused to serve a black person or an Asian person based on her personal religious views that she doesn't like black or Asian people?

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Woooooo here we go 🙃

Fucking knew this was gonna happen. Are they gonna do Loving v. Virginia next?

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Kid David didn't exercise her free speech, she discriminated.

Edit: Fuck I'm bad at typing. Kim Davis*

[–] Skanky@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Can we just take a minute to appreciate how much forehead she has? She could star in the next Coneheads movie!

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[–] manxu@piefed.social 10 points 3 days ago

It would be such a dumb move to reverse a ruling this close to its decision and with such messy consequences for thousands of couples and families, of course they are going to do it.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

This would then apply to all religions, correct?

She is so messed up. Religious marriage is separate from state licensing of relationships. Religion can discriminate away, but the state serves all its people.

She can't argue she was acting on behalf of the state, and literally says it was based on her personal beliefs how can she then argue she has no personal liability?

I think that firing her would have been the better answer though, if she won't do the job then fire her and hire someone without a conflict.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 9 points 3 days ago

Here we go.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And this Ladys and Gentlr-people is, why LGB without the T is simply shooting in your own foot. First they go for trans people, but republicans will not stop there. They want to see all of the LGBTQ community dead or at least completely stripped of their rights and hiding at home. Just because you fought with the Republicans to make the life for trans people hell that doesn't mean, that you aren't next.

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[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

This should be a cut and dry case, where a person used the powers given them from their government position to deny civil rights as outlined by the Supreme Court and the Constitution. This was not them doing their government job, nor was it them just NOT doing their job. If it were the former, then there should be no penalty. If the latter, then they should be fired but shouldn't be held liable.

However, this was them exploiting their power to do a job in a discriminatory way. She didn't just not do her job. She specifically did her job for some people and denied others based on her personal feelings. She should be held personally liable for personally choosing to individually discriminate based on personal feelings.

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