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Then there was scouting……
- service to others
- cleaning up nature areas
- recycling drives
And this was in the 1970s, so I don’t know what happened to the world since, especially with environmental awareness and action.
My experience as a Cub Scout in the 1970s (I never made it to Boy Scouts) was that we would give a few minutes of half-assed effort towards some activity like making clay roses or construction paper houses, and then we'd go outside and play "Smear the Queer" the rest of the afternoon. This game is inconceivable in today's world, not just because of the horribly inappropriate name but also because it was just mob violence for little boys. One kid would pick up the football and run around while everyone else tried to slam them into the ground, at which point some other kid would pick up the football and run around with it. I guess I was smarter than everybody else because it soon occurred to me that picking up the football was a really dumb idea.
I did spend a lot of time volunteering at the local recycling center, though. My parents (slightly older hippies) were so proud of me, but they didn't realize I did it because of all the porn magazines we found. Like, I literally had a closet filled with duplicate copies of Playboy, Penthouse, Hustler and Oui.
People still love football and rough housing. Boys still wrestle and tackle each other all the time. I don't know if they call it smear the queer anymore, but frankly we never called it smear the queer in front of adults, so I dunno
I think even more boys are lifting these days than back then, but I have no concrete evidence beyond the boys I've met.
I do feel sad about how easy porn is to procure now. It used to be something special to have a magazine and be able to share it with friends. There's a comedian who talks about "porn in the woods" and like, I remember porn in the woods. It was the little free library of teenage boys before hipsters started making little free libraries. Knowing where it was stashed was a big deal. You couldn't let that info fall into the wrong hands, and adding to the collection was like being in the club; A real pillar of the community. Depending on the story of how you got it, it could even make you a hero
I hope there's something out there that's taken it's place in boy society
It's even simpler, "empathy" should do it. Conservatives also care a great deal about gay rights, abortion access, government safety nets... as soon as it affects them personally.
"Empathy is the downfall of the west" paraphrasing Melon husk
Noted drug addict, sociopath, and out-loud-and-proud nazi
im further left than whoever made this, so dont take it the wrong way but this is a fucking stupid meme. Surely the libs can do better than this... whatever this is... right? Like... this is some boomer-tier stuff
See that's my only problem with other people on the left.... Conservatives will always support other conservatives. They'll vote for them regardless.
Liberals, Progressives, leftists, they'll kneecap other without hesitation because they can't stand simple progress. They want radical change. And if you can't provide that, then they won't vote, they won't support anyone, they'll talk absolute shit about candidates, ideas, etc.
God forbid anyone tries to sell progressivism to the public... You can always guarantee a leftist will come out of the fucking woodworks to poo poo on it because it's just not left enough for them. Assholes.
Liberals, Progressives, leftists, they'll kneecap other without hesitation because they can't stand simple progress. They want radical change.
Agreed 100%. And I'd expand it further (and more impactfully) many moderates would rather let the country delve into fascism than the mystery box of progressivism that (in their mind) might eventually lead to fascism or higher taxes when they finally become a billionaire.
Moderates and progressives need to agree on a candidate (primary), then both sides need to support them.
We agreed on a candidate. (Bernie)
And the Dems decided to railroad the other candidate through anyway. It makes absolutely perfect sense why progressives think liberals are full of shit.
Hell, Dems are fighting harder against Mamdani right now than they are against Donald, a literal fascist president.
A leftist correctly critized me today. I guess we can't ever have nice things anymore.
It's talking passed eachother. Something any of us can do. No one here should have a problem with what's in the meme. Liberal in general conversation is a good thing. Everyone wants liberal amounts of freedom. Or liberal amounts of butter on their toast. Etc Etc Etc.
The average person is so ignorant they don't have an understanding of any political structures to have anything of value to say. So most don't. It was never intended as liberal as in economic liberal, or neoliberal both basically meaning capitalists. Chances are they all have similar gripes to us about capitalists. But simply have no understanding of how to voice it in an educated way. And this sort of behavior certainly isn't going to fix that.
As anarchist I would have plenty of places I might disagree with someone who would self describe as liberal. But I know we have far more places we might agree. That neither of us identify with elected officials. That we both feel trapped in this system. That we both want it to be more answerable and representative. We might disagree on how and how much. But we'd both benefit working together against the system. And in the interaction. Perhaps they learn something new and become a proper new ally.
Me too but hey, if this resonates with some boomers I'm all for it.
After seeing a bunch of tankie memes on Lemmy, I've become a bit more aware of the popularity of low quality "picture of text" memes that confirm you are correct and others are wrong. It's fine to have beliefs but saying you have them because you paid attention in school is silly.
I don’t know if that’s what it means though. I took it as the normal things everyone is taught in childhood, that conservatives agree with teaching, is now thought if as “left”
I can never really tell how un/intentionally memey the boomer aspect is anymore, but my brain might be broken. It's definitely a meme by libs, for libs though.
“Well I went to middle school also guns bad”
For me its summed up by writer Pearl Buck:
“Our society must make it right and possible for old people not to fear the young or be deserted by them, for the test of a civilization is the way that it cares for its helpless members.”
I think you mistook Leftism for Liberalism
Meh, these are very vague points in which liberals (as in liberalism) mostly believe though.
I didn't like the way they treated Clinton and everything the conservatives have done since then has made it worse.
"Liberal" without either putting "Social" or "Economic" in front of it, is a meaningless term.
It's not a meaningless term for the people who use it as a pejorative. For them, it encompasses everything they hate, however nebulous that set of things may be.
I mean, Webster’s disagrees with you.
Ah, so you admit schools are indoctrinating kids?
Define “So”.
... and that's why I joined ICE.
(Seriously, why is the image some guy wearing a face mask?)
Looks like it's just standard cold weather gear. Looks like he may be hiking/ skiing/ backpacking in cold weather.
Not revealing too much about you is a smart move