Yes.
This is why I'm holding on to my "dumb" TV for as long as I can. Being able to pick and choose what streaming device I use is great, and if I have to build my own someday, that's just fine.
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I still have a 720p dumb TV and I'm not getting rid of it. But my eyesight is terrible so 720p, 1080p, 4k don't really make much difference to me.
I've got 20/10 vision and the difference is so negligible as to not really matter after 1080. Especially because all the smoothing and image effects new TVs have are so horrendously bad that they make me feel sick.
I still run an 8 year old LG TV that stopped getting updates 4 years ago and doesn't even attempt to connect to the internet. It's great because it just turns on and works.
I've fixed a couple extras and have them stored. If you find a "dead" TV, shine a flashlight into the screen and see if you see the picture. If so, then there's probably just a problem with the backlighting, which is why TVs get trashed most often. Order up a set of backlight strips, find a youtube vid on taking that model apart, and put new strips in. Takes about 30 minutes and baby, you got yourself a TV.
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If I were you, I wouldn't have let it have internet access in the first place. Try a factory reset and don't let it online, and you'll probably not even notice.
But think of all the wonderful ads you're going to miss out on!
I think I can live without that particular piece of junk. :)
A smart TV is primarily a surveillance device that also happens to display video.
I have a box that connects to the internet for video things. The TV has and will never connect.
Unequivocally yes. The less surveillance, the better.
You should've never connected it in the first place. Never even set up any functions that a piece of hardware prompts you to. Most of those are enforced only because the company behind them gains something from you having them set up. Unless you actually need something that depends on that function, disable the function.
Lol, my favourite thing about my smart TV is that the wifi was already broken when I bought it
Yes.
Get a dumb TV, I've had great luck with the Specter brand, and hook up a set top box for your smart functionality.
Smart TVs spyon you, report on you, eat bandwidth even when off, and become out dated quickly.
Yes
Some brands (LG and Samsung iirc) have been confirmed to send periodic screenshots of your content, no matter if it's through "smart apps" or HDMI.
You could also do that "softly" with PiHole, if you intend to use some of the apps, but if you don't, it's only beneficial to disconnect it entirely from the internet.
My Samsung Frame tv tries to ping home twice every second.
Pihole says no.
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This is what I do. It stops it from auto updating and from phoning home, but still lets the individual apps function. Some of the apps don't work, because they can't update either, but if we get desperate, we just punch the TV through the pihole just long enough to update the individual app. It's a reasonable middle ground.
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Yes.
As someone in a similar situation, entertainment PC connected, I've never connected my smart TV to the internet. There is no need.
Yes. I connected mine, checked for updates, then factory reset it and did not enter any network login.
This only works on certain brands I'm afraid...
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Um yeah, definitely. My TV has never had Internet connectivity, not should it.
Its silly how many people are proposing dumb TVs as something better ore something you need to hold on to at all costs. Get a TV with a screen that suits you and connect some playback device via HDMI or such. Kodi, custom entertainment PC, android TV, whatever. The tips about pihole are not good either. Its not a firewall with DPI, just a dns blocker. If the TV uses hardcoded IP then you are shit out of luck. And it bet they do.
I wish dumb TVs were more available. I have a Samsung and I mainly use their interface to swap HDMI inputs - though the built in Spotify app has a better screensaver.
My main issue is that good screens in large formats, like the latest OLEDs aren’t really available in dumb TVs.
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Shit out of luck…. unless you run your own router and know how outbound firewall rules work. Granted the general public does not do either of those, but this is Lemmy.
i like controlling the TV with the various IP methods, so i just blocked it from being able to reach WAN and vice versa
Yes.
Even better, get rid of it entirely and get a dumb TV.
Where? Ive been looking everywhere and its like they dont exist anymore
Qb series Samsung are commercial displays but no Netflix or smart features. However, they are about double the price of a standard tv. Will last forever though. I would rather buy a less expensive and not connect it to the network.
They don't really as the "smart" subsidies the cost of the TV. Some commerical grade TVs and large monitors won't be smart or need Internet connectivity.
I got a "signage display", which is basically just a large monitor connected via HDMI.
The problem with those is that the picture quality is not the same as traditional TVs.
I guess. But it's good enough for me and all my content is only in 1080p anyway, so I don't think the display is limiting me too much.
I've resigned myself to large monitors for the 'small TV' and projectors for the 'big TV'
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Is your loss of privacy worth it to you?
should I unplug my smart _______ from the internet?
fill in the blank, it should always be yes.
For the next TV look at commercial and industrial panels. You can usually find the display you want with none of the smart tv junk.
Search for ‘commercial display + brand name’
I feel I must clarify. I value my privacy, and my money. I prefer to disconnect it from the internet immediately, but if the vendor put a piece of code that measures offline time and then disables critical HDMI input functionality - it is a different story entirely.
What if after X months of offline functionality - I have to connect it again because of "You must connect to the internet to continue using this TV"
What if being offline for a very long duration of time - means that when connecting it again - the firmware update bricks my TV?
I know the instabilities that occurr when updating after a very long time of being offline.
I'm unsure about my specific model - but it is an LG WebOS OLED 48"
If they disable stuff, call the manufacturer and tell them you have moved in a family member with sensitive medical equipment that needs to have no wifi in the area. Will they give you a code to disable internet or do you need to sue them for reckless endangerment?
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What if being offline for a very long duration of time - means that when connecting it again - the firmware update bricks my TV?
We don't see many updates that outright brick your product (yet). What we do see is updates that just happen to make your product run much slower than it used to. There's always excuses why it is necessary, but in the end those updates tend to lead to sales of new devices.
Keeping the device fully offline is a defense against such an update.
Myself, I don't see any reason for my TV to ever be online, so I take some comfort that it will not receive such an update.
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You could ~~buy~~ but that will make it sad. Do you want your tv to be sad?
Do you?
Who makes your tv?
You can do quite a bit of tweaks to mitigate the phone home stuff and ads with projectivy and ADB TV.
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