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I'll be strategically voting liberal this time because of the MAGA traitor PP. He would sell Canada in a heartbeat to Trump's regime.
Once Milhouse is dealt with I will not be voting liberal ever again. Not that my vote matters really. My riding is 100% liberal.
I really don't give a shit how unpopular Jagmeet is. I am a socialist. I don't like the liberals. They're centrists. I will vote for the centrist to keep fascism at bay.
Thank you for voting strategically. It would be great to see people wake the fuck up and see the NDP become the official opposition. The conservatives should be banished to the basement of parliament
I guarantee that when the next election rolls around, you'll once again be voting liberal to keep fascism at bay.
Just as the system intends. We need electoral reform as part of the solution out of this cycle. Our politics often mirror some of the USA (2 party system, right vs left, candidates spend most of their time bad mouthing each other, no follow through on election promises) , given their current state, we should be doing everything we can to distance ourselves and our systems from theirs.
I'm pretty much in the same boat but luckily my riding is a safe NDP vote so I don't have to worry about being strategic.
I am obviously hoping for Carney this time around though. I'd vote for an (evil even) inanimate carbon rod over PP. Hopefully the NDP can choose a new leader and really take off next election
If you’re voting strategically ABC, make sure that the Liberals actually have the strongest contender in your riding based on the polls.
There are a lot of NDP / Conservative battleground ridings that the Liberals will never pick up.
Just gonna drop this here
I don’t trust most of these websites to give an objective answer for most people’s ridings. Better to spend a bit more time and look at the poll data and riding’s history yourself.
This right here
If for no other reasons at all I think Canadians should vote Liberal for these two stances from their 2021 platform:
I think climate change is a much more immediate concern than most people realize, there simply is no excuse to throw the future away over lesser social concerns.
I think the 49k Canadian Dollars is a bit low for the bar to be, but if it taxes the rich then everyone below the 1% gains more from this policy than they lose.
But I'm not Canadian. Ya'll do you.
there simply is no excuse to throw the future away over lesser social concerns.
You underestimate just how selfish people can be
How selfish conservatives and gullible people can be.
They are also people
The one thing I wish would stay is the 66% capital gains over $250000 a year. That tax would impact the highest of income earners only but I also see the reason in scrapping that for now to spur capital investment here. Eventually we are going to have to increase the taxes on the rich but the economic growth from what we have laid out so far will spur our economy for the next year or two until we set up trade improvements for our European and South Asian allies.
We are going to be building faster then we ever could at a time like no other. Just as we had Europe's back in both world wars we will have your backs now in the face of Russian aggression and we will keep tabs on those American fascists running the country to the south of us. We will happily supply Europe with the resources it needs just as we did before. Natural gas, hydrogen, lumber, wheat, potash, aluminum, steel, lithium, cobalt, nickel, and so much more.
This is the Canadian century, and we will rise to the occasion
The Cons have lied through their teeth for decades, but specifically since Mulroney. He followed Reagan around like a lapdog and did his bidding. NAFTA never should have been signed.
I’m feeling conflicted this year. I’ve been an NDP voter since as long as I was old enough to vote. This year I’m leaning Liberal.
My riding is polling strong red so while it doesn’t make a statistical difference I want to show the NDP that I’m not confident in their leadership or partisanship. I love their policies but it’s time for Jagmeet and similar ineffective MPs to make way for stronger leaders.
Yeah, the NDP kind of need to get crushed in this election so we can clear out the dead wood. We need a reborn and revitalized NDP to meet the current moment.
I absolutely disagree with that statement.
The Liberals are going to bring more of the same. What we need is a strong coalition with both the Liberals and NDP to push the Liberals to work for the little guy for once.
I'm tired of having a party that does nothing but work for corporations, who can't think outside the box and do nothing for the working class.
An NDP minority would keep Singh and the other softly softly types in charge, and continue to offer weak, incremental improvements instead of real, meaningful change. We need a radical, socialist left that offers real solutions if we're going to avert the rise of fascism here in Canada, and the NDP needs new faces and new ideas if they're ever going to win people over again.
I agree with you there. The NDP needs to be more aggressive. I don't know about radical though. You don't want to scare people off either. I think it needs to be progressive. But, they definitely need a change in leadership.
I think being afraid of scaring people off got them where they are.
Voters were overwhelmingly willing to vote for Pollievre, a man everyone detests, simply because he was a fuck you to Ottawa and the status quo.
That 'burn it down' energy has been tamped down by the threats from the south, but sooner or later it will be back (or we'll no longer be talking about Canadian elections), and when it does the NDP needs to be ready to point the molotovs at where the real blame is.
I kind of agree, but there's a substantial chance the NDP will insist on misinterpreting the results as meaning they should pull even farther to the relative center, even though it's their base they are losing.
On the other hand, the NDP implosion in NB opened the window for a stronger Green party with no more splitting of left-leaning votes. That party now more effectively represents both environmental concerns and labor. So far, that's seeming like a pretty harmonious pairing of interests, with a largely shared base.
I'm good with the NDP either shaping up or getting out of the way.
Look, I wish I could give you an ironclad guarantee of how things will shake out, but that ain't how this shit works.
The NDP as they are now are incapable of rising to this moment. They need to be replaced by something that is. Maybe that works out, maybe it doesn't. Playing it safe has gotten us fucking nowhere. I'd rather take the swing.
I voted for NDP. My province voted for Conservative, so we are getting Dougie Ford in ON, again. :/
That's pretty much where I'm at as well. My riding is currently blue, and every piece of mass-mail propaganda I've gotten from the current MP has used a lot of words to say an awful lot of nothing.
I've generally voted NDP, but they need to make some leadership changes. I don't believe that the current NDP leadership would be effective in handling the overgrown toddler running the show in the US, and PP would hand us to him on a silver platter. I don't actively dislike Carney so far, so at least that's something.
Vote, bring your friends to vote, post about voting and encourage everyone to fucking vote.
I agree liberals dont make tha same mistake as your american equivalents. Make sure your candidates running actually gives people reasons to vote for your candidate.
Dont think you can just goose step to the party line of no change for the working class. Dont try to deny and support a genocide. Dont think the other candidate sucking is sufficient for you to brow beat people to vote for your candidate.
If there's a group asking for a change that you might not technically agree with but doesnt harm people do it anyways
It's so obvious that Canada and the liberal party isn't supportive of Israel doing what they're doing.... Wtf are you talking about?
Don't be that left leaning douche bag that thinks that unless everything is done perfectly to a tee with what YOU want to see, that it isn't worth voting for. The NDP has great ideas and we owe them for pushing the liberals to get dental care and pharma care done ... But Jesus Christ the foreign interference is strong with you
I know it's because you feel very passionate about this issue, but you really need to change that attitude. We're all fiends here.
Hey, I know i am definitely a fiend, but do you really think we all are?
Canada and the liberal party isn't supportive of Israel doing what they're doing.... Wtf are you talking about?
Justin Trudeau: "I am a zionist" and also "Zionism isn't a bad word." then proceeds to send money and equipment to Israel.
Yeah good job showing kamala she was wrong. Working real good. She definitely knows she lost.
laugh she won in my state silly. she lost because she didnt give people a reason to show up for her. recognizing and acknowledging that someone is a shit person and thats why they lost lets you address the problems I mentioned above.
but yes keep burying your head in the sand. the DNC is likely to lose the next election too unless they learn to give their base what they want.
What next election?
she didnt give people a reason to show up for her.
Her opponent was Donald Trump. That's it. That's the reason.
If it was Kamala Harris vs Nikki Haley I'd get it. But this wasn't establishment Democrat vs establishment Republican. It was establishment Democrat vs actual fascism.