Can't they make all toilets unisex? In Sweden a lot of them don't device in male and female. You have your toilet with a sink to wash your hands and a mirror behind a closed door, problem solved.
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They could, but obviously these people would be against that. Because they don't have a rational objection, they're just bigots.
I read this the opposite way.
Scottish museums are objecting to an anti-trans judgement from the UK. They are saying that if trans-women can't use the women's bathroom, and trans-men can't use the men's bathroom, then they have to close. They're being allies.
It's based on a recent case where Scotland's highest court stated that a person's gender could change based on a doctor's authority, and this was overturned on appeal by a UK judge.
The bar I used to work at just had a bunch of toilets in full enclosed stalls, a urinal section around the corner from that, and then communal sinks
Heaven.
Yea this is a common layout for toilets in bars.
You have to do it right, but yes.
There is a school in the US that converted stalls into actual rooms, which was good. But the way the law was written, the area outside the stalls was considered a prohibited, unisex "changing area' because it was private rather than public. The solution was to make it a public handwashing area. But the way they did it was by cutting a window into the former "changing area" to make it public rather than private.
So it got reported by Republicans as a Democratic attempt to spy on kids in the bathroom. And since it was one of the bathrooms intended to accommodate trans students, it got reported as Republicans trying to spy on trans kids.
Basically, they did everything right, but pissed off everybody in the process.
Sounds like they pissed off Republicans. But anything sensible and non-cruel will do that.
They cut a big hole in the wall of the transgender bathroom.
They pissed off everybody.
But that might mean there's only room or plumbing connections for (as an example) two or three toilets when there was a room that allowed 4 or 6 toilets. And now the reduced capacity runs against the rules set out in other building codes. I'm not going for or against just saying, see the problems?
I see the problem that someone planned it wrong and now it needs to be corrected.
But also it's not like it costs an arm and a leg to do it.
Adding these is usually the way to solve it. There wouldn't be enough room to completely convert existing without losing a lot of capacity.
That’s clearly not possible, because although unisex toilets have functioned just fine for forever some TERF’s with a lot of money behind them have decided that the moment a man enters a bathroom a woman could also be in the poor damsel’s are in distress and faint due to shock or something.
Gendered bathrooms have always been stupid. Everybody poops, everybody pees, it's good enough to just have a room where everyone can do that.
Bathroom stalls are nasty. Just have poop rooms with good ventilation and a community sink.
No worries, I'll just hold it until I find a politician to piss on
Before long, it became clear that private toilet facilities were probably impossible to make work, and the only real option was to revert to public urination and defecation in the street, an option that had worked admirably for many centuries.
Trans people and people who don't mind trans people get private stalls; TERFs can poo in public so everyone can see if a scary trans person bothers them. If they don't want to, they're welcome to use the stalls too.
Fascinating how some people are capable of creating problems out of nowhere. That's Trumponia-tier idiocy.
We can thank the TERFs and their fellow bigots for managing that.
amplified by the TERF queen rowling, and musk. which also made certain people super-sensitive about trans issues.
which is a russia-backed sort of propaganda, yes we know putin love to push these sort of things to sow division, what better than CULTURE wars stuff.
Reminder - because trans men are almost always treated as invisible in these conversations - UK law makes it illegal for trans men to piss anywhere at all. Trans women can use the men’s, but trans men cannot use the women’s or the men’s.
It’s fucked.
trans men are almost always treated as invisible in these conversations
Seconded. There's almost zero solidarity most of the time in the trans community when it comes to trans-men, who often get treated as though they should just vie for themselves. It's almost like some sort of reflexive trauma of not wanting to associate with anything remotely masculine post-op.
I've seen trans-men literally get berated and put down for being enthusiastic about anything remotely masculine, be it sports or clothing, 24/7 by other trans people. They fucking hate them.