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[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 166 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Would you like to work nearly double the standard 40-hour week?

Maybe in the USA. It is 37.5h where I am.

known as “996,” or 9 am to 9 pm, six days a week. In other words, it’s a 72-hour work week.

Fuck off.

[–] HamFistedVegetarian@feddit.uk 67 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sign up to that shit and you are part of the problem. Fuck that.

[–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

People making 400k... Sure kinda makes sense for a few years but they want to every 150k worker to do the same and thats what this shill slop is about

[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 6 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Uh.... Just saying.... you (or others reading) need to think in much bigger numbers for that extreme of a schedule... Entry level devs at FANG make around that amount of money..... and we didn't work nearly that many hours at the office.....

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[–] neblem@lemmy.world 118 points 2 days ago (3 children)

So many studies say this will lead to far less productivity for anything remotely knowledge work, especially over a long period.

Meanwhile smarter companies are going to a 4 day work week. https://www.investopedia.com/four-daywork-week-study-success-11777896

[–] flightyhobler@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nothing to do with productivity. It's all about small dick energy CEOs wanting to validate and underline their self-perceived superior status. "How dare the little people work as little time as me?"

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[–] billygoat@catata.fish 22 points 2 days ago

So many studies say this will lead to far less productivity for ~~anything~~ remote~~ly knowledge~~ work, especially over a long period.

How an MBA read this.

[–] hovercat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago

It honestly blows my mind how these "leaders" get paid billions of dollars to run their companies into the ground because they have no fucking clue how real humans operate.

[–] LilB0kChoy@midwest.social 105 points 2 days ago (5 children)

known as “996,” or 9 am to 9 pm, six days a week. In other words, it’s a 72-hour work week

Tl;dr

Any company that wants me to work a “996“ can fuck ALLLLLLLLLL the way off

[–] atticus88th@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As long as I get paid 2.5x my 40hr pay sure. Otherwise my fellow unionized tech bros are collectively saying "go fuck yourself"

[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 67 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If I was in my 20’s I’d have thought about that 2.5x offer. Now that I’m in my 40’s I can say i wouldn’t even do it for 5x. You can’t buy back missed time, no matter how much money you have.

Part of me says that I’d do it for 20x… but I’d just end up quitting in a few months, take my money and retire early.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago

After 6 months you'd have enough to retire to Vietnam. Another 6 and you'd have enough to pay yourself a low salary forever.

Another 6 and you'd fund a small house in a smaller town where you can retire, and another 6 and you'd be dead from stress.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

I did it (we called it 6x12s) for about 2-3 years in my 30s. At the time it felt worth it; food, lodging, and transportation were all covered as well. I don’t really regret it most days but looking back years later I think it may have damaged friendships more than I’d realized until recently.

There’s no fucking way I’d do it now. Now I’m just one bad day away from rage quitting and retiring. Unfortunately I’m in a great position with a great boss and a reasonable work load and ample coverage and support and never been denied time off so that bad day isn’t likely to come anytime soon.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago

The founders can do all the 996 they want, but if they want to have their employees do the same, they should offer a fair share of the company at least.

[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Say no to 72 hour work weeks. Working more hours does not increase quality of work or even quantity, but is does increase stress and suicide rates. Stop accepting it's OK to be ground into dust just so you can barely earn a living. Tell those CEO's to take their jobs and shove it, especially in Sililcon Valley. That place is no longer the pinnacle of technological innovation it was in the late 90's. It's been nothing but a guilded shithole bastion for technocrats.

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago

That counts as your break. 🤨

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 days ago

Fuck right off.

[–] Geodad@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

That sounds like a good way to have your entire workforce quit on you...

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I would work that many hours a week as long as I got paid +$1 million a year. Otherwise, it would just make more sense to start my own business.

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[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I thought "996" meant 9 hours on Monday, 9 hours on Tuesday, 6 hours on Wednesday, then a 4-day weekend.

[–] Texas_Hangover@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] darkpanda@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Will they be introducing company stores next?

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why are they working so much, they don't do anything

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Reminder: authority only exists because we let it.

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[–] Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago

Actually saying that they want slave labor is considered bad public relations.

[–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Our product will make all jobs obsolete. That's why we need to work our employees to death making it!

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, work yourself to death for the profits of the oligarchy, you morons. See what thanks you get.

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[–] vane@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People are stupid, they have whole nature around them, but they are killing it to create computers and escape the planet.
That's sad.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Silicon Valley Workforces Embracing Controversial ‘Kill The Asshole CEOs’ Strategy

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I avoided this issue by embracing the completely non-controversial "become a contractor" work schedule. When you're a temp they specifically want you NOT to work overtime without prior authorization - because they have to pay for it. And as a software dev I was always treated identically with employees, except for a few special things like some company meetings and offsite events - which I didn't want to attend anyway. And I got paid almost twice as much hourly than I would as an employee. Sure, I had to buy my own health insurance and didn't get paid time off, but when you double your salary those are non-issues. But what about job security? LOL what about layoffs? My job security was that there are always contract jobs everywhere.

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

I wouldn't do it for money... I'd do it for a SHITLOAD of money (and then collect unemployment once the bubble bursts, as a soft-retirement)

[–] rhvg@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Culture revolution, 996, USA has imported so many good stuff from China. Next one should be removing president term limit I guess?

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Already on that. In progress.

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[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

Give me a devent chunk of the company so I make proportional profits. Otherwise, no thanks.

Embracing? This is been the reality for many startups for a long time. Same with many game devs and animation studios too. Many technical jobs grind their staff despite being the most profitable industries. It is almost like the more money you make, the more you abuse your staff.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago

Good, keep those freaks away from the rest of us.

Capitalists going to capitalist

[–] droopy4096@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

that probably goes along with that $20M zuck offered to AI professionals. Yeah, we'll pay you $20M a year, you'll be spent around 6mon into the job your productivity will be 60% so.. (taps calculator) we get f#ck all for a sh%t ton of money and destroy people... letsdoit!

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 10 points 2 days ago

Yeah I start thinking about extreme property damage at 48 hours of work.

[–] horse@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago

Kobe Bryant dedicated all his waking hours to basketball, and I don’t think there’s a lot of people saying that Kobe Bryant shouldn’t have worked as hard as he did.

Yeah, but he was working to achieve something for himself and not to make some parasite richer.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm pretty sure half these articles are issued by the companies themselves just to get people outraged and talking about this, just so that they can test the waters and see how many people will defend it.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

The Americans and their piss poor labor laws, They like working beyond the point of diminishing return.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 6 points 2 days ago

I certainly hope these people aren’t driving themselves to work with this schedule. In addition I hope no one on it has a heart condition.

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/2004-143/pdfs/2004-143.pdf

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6617405/

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/309714292_Long_Working_Hours_and_Shift_Work_as_Risk_Factors_for_Occupational_Injury

The sweet spot for 12s is in having 4 days off per week. There isn’t time for anything in life on work days except work, sleep, commute. Thirdly, the first day off is a wash. Recovery. Like a nap that simply goes on all day. 12s are great but only with block scheduling and days off.

This schedule proposal sounds like something out of pre-OSHA, possibly intended to kill people. Live to work, not the other way around.

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