Would you like to work nearly double the standard 40-hour week?
Maybe in the USA. It is 37.5h where I am.
known as “996,” or 9 am to 9 pm, six days a week. In other words, it’s a 72-hour work week.
Fuck off.
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Would you like to work nearly double the standard 40-hour week?
Maybe in the USA. It is 37.5h where I am.
known as “996,” or 9 am to 9 pm, six days a week. In other words, it’s a 72-hour work week.
Fuck off.
Sign up to that shit and you are part of the problem. Fuck that.
People making 400k... Sure kinda makes sense for a few years but they want to every 150k worker to do the same and thats what this shill slop is about
Uh.... Just saying.... you (or others reading) need to think in much bigger numbers for that extreme of a schedule... Entry level devs at FANG make around that amount of money..... and we didn't work nearly that many hours at the office.....
So many studies say this will lead to far less productivity for anything remotely knowledge work, especially over a long period.
Meanwhile smarter companies are going to a 4 day work week. https://www.investopedia.com/four-daywork-week-study-success-11777896
Nothing to do with productivity. It's all about small dick energy CEOs wanting to validate and underline their self-perceived superior status. "How dare the little people work as little time as me?"
So many studies say this will lead to far less productivity for ~~anything~~ remote~~ly knowledge~~ work, especially over a long period.
How an MBA read this.
It honestly blows my mind how these "leaders" get paid billions of dollars to run their companies into the ground because they have no fucking clue how real humans operate.
known as “996,” or 9 am to 9 pm, six days a week. In other words, it’s a 72-hour work week
Tl;dr
fuck that
Any company that wants me to work a “996“ can fuck ALLLLLLLLLL the way off
As long as I get paid 2.5x my 40hr pay sure. Otherwise my fellow unionized tech bros are collectively saying "go fuck yourself"
If I was in my 20’s I’d have thought about that 2.5x offer. Now that I’m in my 40’s I can say i wouldn’t even do it for 5x. You can’t buy back missed time, no matter how much money you have.
Part of me says that I’d do it for 20x… but I’d just end up quitting in a few months, take my money and retire early.
After 6 months you'd have enough to retire to Vietnam. Another 6 and you'd have enough to pay yourself a low salary forever.
Another 6 and you'd fund a small house in a smaller town where you can retire, and another 6 and you'd be dead from stress.
I did it (we called it 6x12s) for about 2-3 years in my 30s. At the time it felt worth it; food, lodging, and transportation were all covered as well. I don’t really regret it most days but looking back years later I think it may have damaged friendships more than I’d realized until recently.
There’s no fucking way I’d do it now. Now I’m just one bad day away from rage quitting and retiring. Unfortunately I’m in a great position with a great boss and a reasonable work load and ample coverage and support and never been denied time off so that bad day isn’t likely to come anytime soon.
The founders can do all the 996 they want, but if they want to have their employees do the same, they should offer a fair share of the company at least.
Say no to 72 hour work weeks. Working more hours does not increase quality of work or even quantity, but is does increase stress and suicide rates. Stop accepting it's OK to be ground into dust just so you can barely earn a living. Tell those CEO's to take their jobs and shove it, especially in Sililcon Valley. That place is no longer the pinnacle of technological innovation it was in the late 90's. It's been nothing but a guilded shithole bastion for technocrats.
vomits in trashcan
That counts as your break. 🤨
Fuck right off.
That sounds like a good way to have your entire workforce quit on you...
I would work that many hours a week as long as I got paid +$1 million a year. Otherwise, it would just make more sense to start my own business.
I thought "996" meant 9 hours on Monday, 9 hours on Tuesday, 6 hours on Wednesday, then a 4-day weekend.
why are they working so much, they don't do anything
Actually saying that they want slave labor is considered bad public relations.
Our product will make all jobs obsolete. That's why we need to work our employees to death making it!
Yes, work yourself to death for the profits of the oligarchy, you morons. See what thanks you get.
People are stupid, they have whole nature around them, but they are killing it to create computers and escape the planet.
That's sad.
Silicon Valley Workforces Embracing Controversial ‘Kill The Asshole CEOs’ Strategy
I avoided this issue by embracing the completely non-controversial "become a contractor" work schedule. When you're a temp they specifically want you NOT to work overtime without prior authorization - because they have to pay for it. And as a software dev I was always treated identically with employees, except for a few special things like some company meetings and offsite events - which I didn't want to attend anyway. And I got paid almost twice as much hourly than I would as an employee. Sure, I had to buy my own health insurance and didn't get paid time off, but when you double your salary those are non-issues. But what about job security? LOL what about layoffs? My job security was that there are always contract jobs everywhere.
I wouldn't do it for money... I'd do it for a SHITLOAD of money (and then collect unemployment once the bubble bursts, as a soft-retirement)
Culture revolution, 996, USA has imported so many good stuff from China. Next one should be removing president term limit I guess?
Already on that. In progress.
Give me a devent chunk of the company so I make proportional profits. Otherwise, no thanks.
Embracing? This is been the reality for many startups for a long time. Same with many game devs and animation studios too. Many technical jobs grind their staff despite being the most profitable industries. It is almost like the more money you make, the more you abuse your staff.
Good, keep those freaks away from the rest of us.
Capitalists going to capitalist
that probably goes along with that $20M zuck offered to AI professionals. Yeah, we'll pay you $20M a year, you'll be spent around 6mon into the job your productivity will be 60% so.. (taps calculator) we get f#ck all for a sh%t ton of money and destroy people... letsdoit!
Yeah I start thinking about extreme property damage at 48 hours of work.
Kobe Bryant dedicated all his waking hours to basketball, and I don’t think there’s a lot of people saying that Kobe Bryant shouldn’t have worked as hard as he did.
Yeah, but he was working to achieve something for himself and not to make some parasite richer.
I'm pretty sure half these articles are issued by the companies themselves just to get people outraged and talking about this, just so that they can test the waters and see how many people will defend it.
The Americans and their piss poor labor laws, They like working beyond the point of diminishing return.
I certainly hope these people aren’t driving themselves to work with this schedule. In addition I hope no one on it has a heart condition.
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/2004-143/pdfs/2004-143.pdf
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6617405/
The sweet spot for 12s is in having 4 days off per week. There isn’t time for anything in life on work days except work, sleep, commute. Thirdly, the first day off is a wash. Recovery. Like a nap that simply goes on all day. 12s are great but only with block scheduling and days off.
This schedule proposal sounds like something out of pre-OSHA, possibly intended to kill people. Live to work, not the other way around.