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[–] Gyroplast@pawb.social 0 points 5 days ago (3 children)

That nerd would surely pronounce his kink /ˈleΙͺtΙ›k/. Also, nobody loves \LaTeX. Unrealistic. 3/10.

[–] SW42@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I do love LaTeX. Wrote every thesis and paper with it. Using bibtex was a lifesaver as I didn’t have to care for citations and references. Not caring about numbering, footnotes or annotations and having them automatically is amazing. Also structuring the thesis or paper into multiple separate files that work with version control has web a game changer for me

[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Even now i'm not in university anymore I use LaTeX for my CV and any formal letter I have to send.

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[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Also, nobody loves \LaTeX.

Lies, LaTeX is great.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 days ago

Yes, absolutely.
But does anyone love it?

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 days ago (5 children)

English is stupid, but how does "latex" get a "k" ending? I have heard people arguing for years that it's supposed to be pronounced that way, but never any justification for why.

[–] thisisbutaname@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

From another comment:

The 'X' at the end of \LaTeX is actually a uppercase chi, so it pronounced with a 'k' sound.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's also wrong, it's supposed to be a ch-sound as in Bach.

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Depending on the time. In ancient Greek it was /k^h^/ (aspirated k, basically the normal k in English) which turned to /x/ as you said but neither is wRoNG, especially when your native language doesn't have one if the sounds

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 days ago

I had no idea that a software typesetting system was that old. Is that what Homer used to typeset the Odyssey?

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 0 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The k-sound is used when the chi is prefixed in front of certain vowels. The ch-sound is the truly correct pronunciation here, there's no history involved for that.

Knuth, the guy who coined it, also says the ch-sound is the correct one, though he also says the k-sound is also acceptable. As long as you do not use the ks-sound at least :)

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[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Because it's not an X at the end, it's a Greek chi. Same with the arXiv preprint distribution


it's "archive," not are-ex-iv.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The greek Ο‡ should be a "ch" sound like "Bach" or "Loch". And if you copy that last character from the project page or anything it's definitely an X, not a Ο‡.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Indeed, "CH" like "Bach" or "loch" is an accepted pronunciation of LaTeX. We didn't have unicode in the 1980s and LaTeX is a logotype so it doesn't really get to evolve.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Meh, it's pronounced Latex. I've chosen my hill to die on. Pretending it's a "k" or "ch" sound is dumb.

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[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Petition to change the name to RX4

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 0 points 5 days ago

99 what you did there...

(I know, IC isn't valid Roman numeral representation of 99, but it was the only joke I could think of.)

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[–] starman@programming.dev 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)
[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 days ago

Love Typst, and I hope it takes off.

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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Anyone else have any good latex quotes? Here’s mine:

β€œI don’t mean to brag, but I’m deathly allergic to latex.”

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[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

As a long-time LaTeX user, I can confirm that there's quite a bit of overlap between that and masochism.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

LaTeX sheen, fursuit blush

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 days ago

Venn of this is just two concentric circles.

[–] halvar@lemy.lol 0 points 5 days ago

fake, no one likes LaTeX

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 days ago
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Curious, is anyone pronouncing them the same or does this only work in text?

[–] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (17 children)

I’ve not heard anyone pronounce them the same, but I don’t doubt they’re out there. Probably a decent overlap with the people who pronounce GIF like the peanut butter.

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

It's pronounced yiff, right?

[–] corvi@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I guess I’m one of them. I’ve never used LaTeX, but I don’t know how else I’d pronounce that.

[–] piranhaconda@mander.xyz 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Lay-tech or Lah-tech is how I've been told it's pronounced, don't ask which one is correct, I don't know

[–] starman@programming.dev 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

IIRC its creator said it's Lay-tech

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[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

The last sound being one that afaik doesn't exist in English. It's like the j in jalapeΓ±o but waaay guttural. It's the Greek letter Ο‡.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago
[–] rImITywR@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The 'X' at the end of LaTeX is actually a capitol chi, so it pronounced with a 'k' sound.

It's actually a ch-sound, as in Bach. But Knuth also thinks the k-pronunciation is fine.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

The tex there has the Greek letter chi instead of Latin x at the end and is supposed to be reminiscent of a Greek root from which we derived the word technique: techne or τέχνη. The tex there is just pronounced tech usually. The original intention I believe was for it to sound like the ch in loch or bach but that sound isn't common in modern English.

[–] matiamas@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Not to be too pedantic, the modern Greek chi is a voiceless velar fricative (or in some cases a voiceless palatal fricative) rather than uvular. The velar location is the same place English pronounces the letter k, uvular is a bit further back, more like the French r. It's a little confusing because the IPA uses the chi symbol for the voiceless uvular fricative even though Greek doesn't pronounce it that way. In Klingon, the voiceless velar fricative is written as H (I believe gh is a voiced velar fricative rather than uvular as well). I think the uvular consonants are q and Q. Apologies if my pedantry was unwelcome

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

Hey I'm regularly wrong and don't mind being corrected.

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[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

My PhD supervisor insisted it was "Law-tex"

[–] kayohtie@pawb.social 0 points 5 days ago

That's how you can tell if someone is into latex (kink), they don't feel comfortable calling LaTeX (tech) by the same pronunciation around people.

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[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I've only heard LaTeX pronounced like latex in media where someone uses it to show what a geek some character is. eg, I've been typsetting my homework assignments in latex since I was 9.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

I've never encountered that kind of LaTeX in media.

[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I know how LaTeX is pronounced but I always read it the same as latex.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

latex-project.org says "lah-tech" or "lay-tech"

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 days ago

Nah. I've said it like the English word in my head for decades. I'll keep doing it. Argle bargle.

It's like those 'kevinist' names where it sounds like 'taylor' but is spelled like 'wishbone' or something. Just. No.

(Hush, Ceilidh, I almost have a sound argument)

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I’ve literally never heard anybody pronounce them differently, your comment confused me at first but TIL.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Wait is the TeX not short for β€œtext”? I’ve always pronounced them the same.

[–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 5 days ago

The "X" is the greek letter, pronounced like the ch in Bach. Knuth explains this in the TeXbook, think TeXnician, not TeXpert.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

They're pronounced so differently my wife didn't get it until I informed her that LaTeX is how "latec" is spelled

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