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I’ve not heard anyone pronounce them the same, but I don’t doubt they’re out there. Probably a decent overlap with the people who pronounce GIF like the peanut butter.
It's pronounced yiff, right?
I call it 'Jiff' and will defend it to the death, for no other reason than I think it's hilarious to have a very strong opinion on something so irrelevant. People get soo mad about it :D
Welcome to the internet, have a cookie.
I always like to point out that outside of the US, Jiff means drain cleaner, although maybe that's just a commentary on the quality of the peanut butter. Although frankly it doesn't make the acronym any less ridiculous.
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The PB is spelled Jif, not Jiff.
The acronym isn't ridiculous, it's how the creator of the acronym pronounced it. People should be able to name their own babies.
Tell that to the SQL folks.
And yes, it's "sequel". And "gif" like "gift".
I did, they say they agree with me.
How do you pronounce Porsche? Do you say "Porsh" or "Por-shuh"?
What about Volkswagen? Is it Volks-wah-gen or Volks-vah-gun?
How about Hyundai? "Hon-Day" or "Hai-un-dai"
If you look up the 'correct' way to pronounce them, I bet you will get a different answer to what you thought it was. Are the former pronunciations only correct in the U.S. but when you travel to Germany or South Korea they become incorrect?
Your argument is a descriptivist one, but how do you determine which is the 'right' pronunciation if both ways of pronouncing a thing are commonly used?
Interesting, so what do you think of the people in this thread who say that LaTeX is pronounced "Lay-tech"? Would the 'right' way to say it change if enough people started pronouncing it 'wrong'?
Por-shuh
Folks-vah-gun
Hun-dai (approximately)
Sequel
Mostly I was just joking around though, pronounce stuff however you want. I'm sure I mispronounce plenty of stuff. Ultimately if people understand each other, that's good enough
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I usually pronounce Volkswagen as "Vee-Double-You"
I say actually say Hyundai just like you around normies, but my bff and I have an In-joke where we call them "Hyun-uh-Die" because one time when she was on the phone with someone from the Insurance company, they corrected her pronunciation to that.
I actually love to mispronounce things on purpose, it might be why I chose "Jif" as my little hill to die on lol.
I sometimes do too lol. I lived in Germany for a while. So if we are working on a project together and get along well you might here me pronounce a tool like it's literally a German word (i.e. "knife" -> "kuh-NEE-fuh" lol)
So is it, go dot, god oh, or gu doh
If the vast majority is wrong it doesn't make them right.
Hyundai is correctly pronounced how the hell ever koreans pronounce it.
One not being korean, it's acceptable to approximate.
I disagree. I think persons should name themselves. But, I understand there are practicalities that require some name to be assigned by outsiders at least until the person can talk.
For things that aren't conscious or are incapable of speech, I think we collectively assign a name. I'm fine giving higher weight to the name chosen by the "creator" or "discover", but I'm not fine with giving them veto power / final cut.
Did you know Dr. Seuss name is actually pronounced more like Zoyce or Soice (rhymes with voice, not moose)? And he wanted people to pronounce it correctly?
I'm actually usually unconcerned by how people pronounce things, but I think taking a man's own name away goes a bit far.
I did know that. I don't recall pronouncing it incorrectly since learning that fact, but I don't talk about those books or their author frequently.
Oops, I worded that funky. I didn't mean to accuse you of doing that, just talking about people in general.
I just think it's an interesting fact.
I guess I’m one of them. I’ve never used LaTeX, but I don’t know how else I’d pronounce that.
The 'X' at the end of LaTeX is actually a capitol chi, so it pronounced with a 'k' sound.
It's actually a ch-sound, as in Bach. But Knuth also thinks the k-pronunciation is fine.
Lay-tech or Lah-tech is how I've been told it's pronounced, don't ask which one is correct, I don't know
The last sound being one that afaik doesn't exist in English. It's like the j in jalapeño but waaay guttural. It's the Greek letter χ.
IIRC its creator said it's Lay-tech
It's "Lay" because it's borrowed from / referencing "lay person" i.e. not a member of the (TeX) priesthood.
The tex there has the Greek letter chi instead of Latin x at the end and is supposed to be reminiscent of a Greek root from which we derived the word technique: techne or τέχνη. The tex there is just pronounced tech usually. The original intention I believe was for it to sound like the ch in loch or bach but that sound isn't common in modern English.
Not to be too pedantic, the modern Greek chi is a voiceless velar fricative (or in some cases a voiceless palatal fricative) rather than uvular. The velar location is the same place English pronounces the letter k, uvular is a bit further back, more like the French r. It's a little confusing because the IPA uses the chi symbol for the voiceless uvular fricative even though Greek doesn't pronounce it that way. In Klingon, the voiceless velar fricative is written as H (I believe gh is a voiced velar fricative rather than uvular as well). I think the uvular consonants are q and Q. Apologies if my pedantry was unwelcome
Hey I'm regularly wrong and don't mind being corrected.
Uvular fricative somehow reminds me of friction of the vulva.
They're nor related, are they?
Vulva or uvula?
La-tech
My PhD supervisor insisted it was "Law-tex"
That's how you can tell if someone is into latex (kink), they don't feel comfortable calling LaTeX (tech) by the same pronunciation around people.