that's why one line for multiple checkouts is better
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Is it not the standard? Every store with self-checkout I've been to has a single line for all machines. I've even seen some stores with a single line for regular checkout.
Not standard here, but it's a mix. Same applies to other checkouts: so many people are doing the devil may know what, I'm terrible at picking the fastest queue.
Self check at Sam's Club at other club stores works in a one line per checkout way, where I am at least
Where I live the grocery stores all have groups of 6+ self checkouts that are reliable enough that only one or two might be out at the same time but generally work, all of the 'too many items' issues have been sorted out, and they are in places where people just naturally form lines and take the next free one. It works great and is so much better than checkout lines ever were as one person going slow doesn't hold up everyone else.
Went on a work trip to a larger city and holy hell I understand why people there would hate self checkout. Forced lines, machines that constantly required human assistance, etc. That would suck to interact with regularly.
Yeah, self-chekout in the 'burbs is fantastic, we have like 4-8 machines and most of the time, at least half are available.
Not only the self checkout. I usually end up behind someone who's new to the concept of exchanging goods for legal tender and needs an introduction to it.
This is of course after they have told the story about why they're in the store, starting with the new testament and moving on from there...
I spend a lot of time thinking about how it's not my place to judge these people, but I think very few of them would manage to sit the right way on the toilet without outside assistance.
People on their cell phone who act surprised and annoyed that the act of checking out requires a brief moment of their attention.
At every checkout you pay twice. Attention and money. If you're doing it correctly.
"Can I go ahead of you in line? My kid is acting up. Great thanks. (To cashier) I'd like to buy this alcohol and cigarettes with these food stamps that I acquired totally legally. No? Let's take several minutes to discuss if there's any way around the law. Now that that's over, I'll pay with a check. Oh, also, can I get 20 scratch off tickets? I just want to scratch them off while you wait. Here, I have a giant roll of cash that I will use, but don't worry, I wasn't doing this to make things go faster. Now is my chance to try to do a cash-changing scam on you."
Have you seen the couple that both get out of the car at the gas station and have to collaborate way too much to work the pumps?
How do these people function in society? The machine is extremely simple to use. Insert card, type code, remove card, pick gas type.
Tourists from New Jersey or Oregon.
Oh man! I'm a city bus driver, and the amount of people that struggle with getting fare in the box is too damn high! I don't understand how you could make a bus full of people wait for you to dig through your pockets at a pace that would make glaciers impatient. You're standing at the bus stop, you know you're getting on the bus, know you'll need fare, yet here we are.
I want to get a documentary crew to follow some of these people around for a while just to see what they do with their days. I genuinely wonder how some people function.
Does your area still use cash for bus fares? In 2025? Where I am it feels like we're behind because only this year did they start letting you tap on with your debit card or phone. We've had transit cards since like 2007.
We've got transit cards, but some people still insist on cash. To be fair the same people that struggle finding coins are the same people who struggle finding a fare card. Or will try to sit in the entryway of the bus, fire up the app, and buy a ticket, then activate said ticket, then struggle to scan said ticket.
There are an unusual number of people in this world who gawk at the self-checkout as if they found themselves at the controls of an alien spaceship.
Whoever designed these machines had never used checkouts, touchscreens, or money before.
Early Wal-Mart models were the touchiest, naggiest goddamn things, like whoever invented PRESS X TO NOT DIE got fired from Capcom and went straight into commercial UX. You will bend over two times for every item, you may not swipe the same item twice for duplicates, and that half-ounce blister-pack better register on the bag-side scale or else the idiot alarm will go off anyway. As it will if you spend more than two seconds figuring out a screen that just jabbed your ears with a shrill beep to demand instant responses to a modal choice for no discernible reason.
Recently CVS had one that's ATM-shaped, with an itty-bitty platform for your stuff. The cash slot is at knee height. The lower half of the machine is angled toward the ground. You can't fucking see it, while it's still demanding immediate responses to modal options, like you're playing a game and have no sane reason to look away from the screen. Hi! Press button to begin. Are you buying something today? Press button to buy. Do you speak English? Press button for English. Will you be scanning things? Press button to scan. Okay, begin scanning things. Press button to scan something else. Press button to not scan something else. Press button to check out. Press button to pay your bill. Press button for how you'll be paying your bill. Press button to activate the cash siphon conveniently located upside-down and backwards two feet off the floor, for use with popular brands of shin-mounted wallets, because the cocaine-chewing lizard person who designed this object has never seen a goddamn vending machine.
It was fine ten years ago! For like a decade, you got a shelf with a scanner in the middle, like a goddamn checkout counter, and you did the thing you've watched register-jockeys do since you got to sit in the cart. They didn't model human customers as idiot robots who'll instinctively stare at a screen and blindly follow instructions as quickly as possible. They acted like you had expectations, and were perhaps engaged in some manual activity involving a cart, a scanner, and three dozen disparate objects.
I always notice people are super cocky about this kind of thing. Yet self-checkouts are so fucking terrible it basically everyone runs into problems at them eventually. So just tempting fate from everyone in this thread really.
I don't know how you can go wrong. You scan the thing, set it down, repeat. Press pay, scan your card, done.
"Unexpected item in bagging area" was a common misery for everyone in London in 2012. Don't know if it's improved there since.
In NL they now do 'random checks' of 10 items, which is basically 'you having to unpack all your shopping' and pack again so they can check if you stole.
The concept of self checkout is ridiculous, making you an unpaid employee and then blaming you for mistakes. It tries to solve the owner's stinginess for not hiring more staff. It's not there to help you, it's there to suppress employees.
I love self checkout. It allows me to avoid most of social interactions and physical proximity with strangers, making the experience just that much less uncomfortable.
You're right that it's being used against the employees, everything that possibly can will in this system, that doesn't make it inherently bad.
It should be an option, together with a well paid, well treated (let them sit ffs) workforce.
I'm not the most social person myself, but I can still comfortably stand 2m away from a cashier, say "Hi", "Card", "Thanks, bye". That's all the interaction that is needed, and it's still a lot more relaxed than having some poor dude ask me to unpack all my shopping to check if I accidentally forgot to scan a yoghurt. So no, thanks I'll boycott self checkout as long as possible.
Unless you get booze, need to use cash, or it's an item the machine wants to weigh. Or worse, expects the weight to be different than it is.
At least most places seem to have turned off the weight thing (or it got 'smart' enough to not care so much).
Where I shop, if you go too fast it confuses the machine and calls an attendant over to clear it while a video of what I was doing plays. Which is bs.
If every self checkout was similar to others, but each of them want to make things different.
Different and worse. How do designers keep seeing other checkout system and think: "You know, I think I see a way that we could make this process slower and more complicated...."
Well for starters because their job title is designer. Gotta earn that $$$$.
If they just copy and pasted it would be "What are we paying you for"
See every single UI/UX change on a modern operating system, or website in the past 30 years.
And so you blame the person whose thrown into having to use a self checkout with little to no instruction having to figure it out instead of the corpo execs who wanted to siphon a few local jobs into their new yachts?
If that person can't even read a screen or do a minimum of reasoning, yes.
To be fair it is so much better than it was when they came out.
Fun fact: This is why a huge amount of people don't use self-checkout despite it potentially saving a lot of time. They are afraid the person behind them is going to judge them like this while trying it for the first time.
Lately I've seen people get stuck at the pament step. The screen is begging them to pick a payment option and they just stare at it, clueless, until a staff member comes over.
OMG this.
Person in front checking out:
BEEP
Lays item on the scale, but is leaning on the scale.
PLEASE REMOVE ITEM FROM THE SCALE
Picks item up
Please put item on the scale
puts item on the scale but has their hand on the scale still
PLEASE REMOVE ITEM FROM THE SCALE
HELP IS ON THE WAY
(help was not on the way)
Them: These things NEVER WORK!!!!
30 seconds later the POS resets and lets them try again.
me: Stop touching the scale, just leave you item there and back off
it works
They scan the next item and place it on the scale and leave their hand on the scale.
PLEASE REMOVE ITEM FROM THE SCALE
Every single item, they never learned. I eventually went to stand in the single manned line that had 15 people in it.
My husband was that guy, but I trained him. Eventually.
Burn down the self chechouts
Hell no. They're a godsend. Don't have to interact with people and I get out of the store in way less time. And you don't have a person standing behind you waiting for you to pack your shit.
If they made some system where you could buy booze with some sort of pre-authentication tied to whatever that approved you then that'd be perfect
You must not buy a lot of produce, gift cards or otc medicine; the self checkout is slower every time I have to buy any of these things and it’s given some companies (cvs, Walgreens) a reason to make their employees who would otherwise be working the register do other things and leave the front of the store almost completely unstaffed every time I go in there. Now I have to use a self checkout to buy something I know they need a person there for and then stand around like an idiot waiting for the cashier to come and assist.
If it’s a grocery store and I have even a moderate amount of produce, I don’t have the codes memorized and there’s no bar codes on it, so I have to find everything I’m buying on their checkout machine. Something else inevitably doesn’t scan or the bagging area detector freaks out about something and then I have to completely stop what I’m doing and wait for an employee to come and scan their card.
It has made it a lot easier to steal things though and with the terrible experience that comes with these things, I’m not far from doing.
Gift cards are a scam.
Do your grocery store's checkout have a search by name? Mine can search by name and have a picture of every produce.
For OTC, i dont see how its a problem unless you buy age restricted stuff?
Honestly self checkout is the bare minimum for me these days. One of the two duopoly supermarkets in Australia rolled out "scan and go" where you can scan it with an app on your phone and pay on your phone and just walk out (with the occasional random inspection to deter theft) and it was such a huge improvement over even regular self checkout. I was gutted when they announced that option was being deprecated due to low uptake.
And you don't have a person standing behind you waiting for you to pack your shit.
Can't confirm.
Here stores usually have a single line to multiple machines so it doesn't feel as much that someone is waiting for you to pack, even though there's people in the line ofc
Everyday driving to work is almost the same experience for me. Not too sure they are even sober.
I think that's just called stealing
The latest models have AI cameras watching you scan your stuff. If you don't hold things and do the motions properly it will stop and contact the underpaid human to help you while the queue behind you gets longer.