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Originally Posted By u/Choice-Act3739 At 2025-07-14 06:32:18 PM | Source


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[–] cubism_pitta@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

A lot of the Tech related H-1Bs go to Consulting firms.

I have nothing negative to say about people on H-1Bs they work very hard and are working the hand they are dealt just like you and me.

The argument that talent can not be found within the US though is completely bogus.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 23 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Is this not obvious to everyone?

Hiring someone on this kind of visa puts them under your boot. They can't ask for much or make waves without risking their whole life being upturned. If a citizen gets fired that sucks, but if you're on a work visa you might have to leave the country (breaking your lease, leaving your partner, etc). I think you get 60 days. Given how bad the job market is, that's not very long to find a new job. Also given how ICE is abducting people and sending them to a death camp, people are extra cautious.

It's similar to how coupling health insurance to employment gives the employer extra power against labor. Are you really going to make a big deal about your boss pressuring you to work unpaid overtime when getting fired means you lose access to your life saving medicine?

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

For context, every wealthy nation has work visas like this. It is not unique to H1bs. Dubai was essentially built on this framework with the added aspect of confiscating passports.

It can be used well in some cases, especially in attracting a workforce to an underserved area. For example, immigrant doctors and nurses make a up a huge proportion of the hospital workforce throughout the US (upwards of 1 in 3 in some urban areas) but even moreso in rural areas.

The problem is when it's misused, especially in the tech sector.

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

It's both, really. We could easily get the best and the brightest by offering better pay, but why sacrifice anything when you can have both?

[–] manicdave@feddit.uk 15 points 16 hours ago

He's right. It doesn't mean you hate foreigners to understand why bosses would prefer to hire someone with less rights and who needs less money to raise their family through remittances.

[–] tane69@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

People who get kicked out of the country if they lose their job usually don't form unions or protest for fair pay or worker rights

[–] Booboofinget@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago

It tracks. There is nothing a multi-million dollar company won't do to screw its workers so it can give their shareholders a bigger profit.

[–] ordinarylove@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 14 hours ago

fuck every border that's what i think

[–] BB84@mander.xyz 3 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Most "leftist" American politician says: Immigrants are taking your good-paying American jobs!!!

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 15 points 15 hours ago

pretty sure it says clear as day "large corporations aren't hiring you because immigrants are cheaper and they shouldnt be"

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 6 points 13 hours ago

Anyone with the ability to see that these systems are in place to further abuse the average worker and exploit emotions:
These systems have a history of and active effect of exploiting and abusing the average worker and immigrant.

[–] Jackcooper@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago

The world (8 billion people) has more talent than when we keep it to the US (350 million people). We should want to import high level talent.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

I don't think that's what Bush was thinking in 1990 when he split H1, nor what Truman was thinking when he made it.

In fact, with the current state of unemployment and skilled workers, the US needs as many educated/skilled people migrating as fast as possible, but I think it's too late.