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[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 141 points 1 day ago (16 children)

bottom, as we only can see the treads not the risers (that small inset underneath a step).

[–] NielsBohron@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

And you can see the wear on the treads. plus the handrail mount in the top left would be at a very inconvenient height if we were looking from the bottom up

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The handrail argument doesn't make any sense. It would be at the same height regardless of direction.

[–] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Also, the handrail mount is sideways if we're looking down; if we're looking up, it makes sense.

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[–] YoFrodo@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (5 children)

It's the top of the stairs because in the top left of thr image you can see the banister support. If the mattresses were at the bottom then the angle of that support would be different

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[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I think it's bottom too but I don't agree with your reasoning, I've seen steps without that bit.

Edit: actually now I think top, I've been convinced by the daylight argument plus the realization that is a single mattress folded in half (I previously thought it's two mattresses).

Edit: changed my mind again, made a top level comment

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[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I have those stairs with that carpet.

💯% this is looking down to a mattress at the bottom of the stairs.

Conclusive evidence:
Looking Down

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Looking Up

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(Sorry I was too lazy to get the low perspective)

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not convinced. It's a different set of stairs and a different carpet. I have had stairs with a carpet more similar to the OP that did not have a riser. See elsewhere in these comments for a photo of these stairs, now bare. In the distant past, they were carpeted.

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[–] IHawkMike@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

While I'm not 100% certain it's not just confusing perspective, it does appear that the slope rise is shorter than the run, suggesting that this is from the top of the stairs.

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[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Nice catch. The carpet wear corroborates this.

[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 43 points 1 day ago (15 children)

How are y'all arguing this? The banister makes it unquestionably obvious that it's at the top. There's no debate to be had here unless the banister was intentionally installed wrong just for the purpose of this meme, which would be crazy.

The mattress is at the top, y'all.

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[–] Cooljimy84@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)

From the wear patten on the carpet I would say bottom, but the handle to the side makes me think top !....

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The handrail probably has the hangers perpendicular to the railing instead of plumb to the ground. Just the cheapest ones you can get.

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[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bottom, we can see dust and debris accumulated on the "run" part of the steps.

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[–] knight_alva@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

At the top-left corner of the image we see a support bracket for the hand rail. The orientation of this bracket only seems to make sense if we are at the bottom of the stairs looking up at the mattress. The shadow cast by the mattress also looks like the light is above and slightly closer to the camera.

If we were at the top looking down, that would imply that the hand rail brackets were sideways instead of being vertical, and that the light was mounted on the wall instead of the ceiling. I have seen stranger things in construction but it would still be strange and unlikely.

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[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The biggest factor IMO is something no one mentioned yet: we can only see one face of each step (either the top or the wall). If a photo is taken from the bottom, we would almost always be able to see the tops of the first few steps, which isn't visible here. If a photo is taken from the top, the walls would pretty much never be visible (if they were, you could also see the photographer's feet).

Therefore, this photo is only consistent with a photo taken from the top.

It is possible that this is an extremely long flight of stairs or that the photo was taken from a deliberately deceptive angle, but if that's the case I have to say it was expertly done, because I am CERTAIN that we are looking from the top and the mattress is at the bottom.

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[–] Pharmacokinetics@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Bottom, you can see the carpet on the steps are worn out.

[–] rotkehle@feddit.org 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

top. you can see part of the handrail on the top left of the picture

[–] CountVon@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

I think that's a heavy duty banister bracket, like this one:

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Some banister brackets have a swivel type arrangement so that the bracket can be vertical underneath the handrail, no matter the angle of the handrail. Basic heavy duty brackets like this one are completely fixed in orientation, so they're installed with the vertical support at an angle to support the handrail. I suspect the bracket in the photo is at a 45ish degree angle and only looks vertical due to the perspective. The banister has been deliberately cropped out of the photo to make the perspective as confusing as possible.

Personally I think the photo was taken from the top of the stairs looking down, based on the wear in the carpet.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Bottom, these stairs have a rounded lip to make them compliant with rise over run requirements in limited space.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Bottom, look at the wear of the carpet, lots of people have walked here.

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[–] Corigan@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Top the railing gives it away

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[–] joshcodes@programming.dev 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thought something was weird here. The contrast and colour is making it difficult. If you turn up shadows it changes the entire feeling, including where the obvious light source is. I wouldn't expect the dark side of the mattress unless there was a bright light directly above it.

Also the banister/handrail arm wouldn't be horizontal. Most importantly, congrats, you got me invested.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I think it is the bottom of the top of the stairs because of the lighting to the bottom left of the mattress. That should be in shadow from the mattress if it was at the bottom of the stairs.

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[–] WhyIAughta@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Not if the mattress is coming in from an outside door. That light could be daylight. In fact I believe this to be the case.

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[–] officermike@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Could be that there's a door or window that's contributing a lot of light down low, spilling under the mattress.

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[–] moakley@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bottom.

  1. The risers on the stairs are not visible.

  2. The wear on the carpet goes right to the edge. That's consistent with people stepping on it, not kicking it on the way up.

  3. If it's at the top, the mattress doesn't appear to have any of its weight resting on a step. It could be so wedged in that it's being held in place, and that it was wedged that way by someone awkwardly pushing at the ends of it in a way that wouldn't seem to give them enough leverage to do that. But the obvious explanation is more likely, that it's at the bottom of the stairs.

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[–] Jhuskindle@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

I know as someone who has rabbits and cats that the hairfall on the close to camera stairs indicates we are at the top looking down. I know hair patterns.

[–] manigordo@lemy.lol 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The mattress is a metaphor, it doesn't matter where it is.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] Legom7@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Steps in a staircase have two measurements. Tread and rise. The proportions of what we can see make more sense as treads rather than rises. Therefore the mattress is at the bottom. Also what we can see of the handrail would make sense in either direction.

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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

Bottom. Wear marks from foot traffic + if that were the top. those mattresses would tip backwards unless someone was holding them in place.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 points 1 day ago

Trick question. It is actually stuck halfway along the entire staircase; the stairs go further on behind the mattress. 😤

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

The metal bar on the top left indicates it's at the top.

[–] Xande@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

On the top.

On the top left you see something... The holder for the railing...

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[–] UltraBlack@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

Bottom. Carpet is really worn on the side facing us

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] archonet@lemy.lol 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is gonna be our white and gold/black and blue dress, huh?

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[–] madjo@feddit.nl 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It’s white and gold!

All joking aside, most stairs that I know had some sort of overhang, which we don’t see in this picture, so I’ll venture to say that we are looking down. The mattress is at the bottom of the stairs.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

top or bottom doesnt matter, whats important is that you PIVOT!

[–] BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We could be looking at the stairs from underneath.

[–] match@pawb.social 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

awh shit, i clipped through the geometry again

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[–] winkly@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I’m a stairs half full kinda person

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