So everyone who calls me the F word wants to fuck me? Gross.
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doi: 10.1037//0021-843x.105.3.440
they mad cuz they cant
Based study
It's always important in science to do the experiment or study, even if you're pretty sure you already know the answer.
Sometimes, the result will be surprisingly counter-intuitive. And other times, like in this study, it confirms what seems blatantly obvious.
What could it possibly mean when a man who identifies as heterosexual feels threatened by the mere existence of homosexual men? What could it mean???
And then they’re like "huh… that’s weird“ and discover time travel by accident.
"Turns out all we needed to travel forwards in time is to burn homophobes!"
"1.21 GIGAHOMOPHOBES?!"
And more proof is always useful. Science runs on it.
And sometimes, just sometimes, studies are framed to find what the experimenter wants them to find.
Homophobes: resist those evil urges, don't give it to the gay sex, you can do it just say no...
The rest of us: uh, who's gonna tell them
If you're scared enough, even wiping your ass is gay.
That's outright disgusting.
If you need to regularly scratch your anus, go see a doctor.
Also, even if you do need to scratch your anus, why wouldn't you be able to eat with your hands? SURELY you sanitize them properly RIGHT? RIGHT?!
Eat with the right, touch anus with the left and always wash hands before you eat. Developed cultures have done this for ages. And they have clean bumholes because they wash instead of only smearing with toilet paper. That shit is disgusting.
Washing can also help against the itchiness. As well as non-synthetic underwear. If those don't help, do indeed see a doctor.
If you need to regularly scratch your anus, you probably have parasites. That's one of the prime ways for some species of parasites (roundworms, I think?, probably tapeworms too?) to spread.
People who think like this don't wash their hands after going to the toilet, so of course it's disgusting for them.
Eating food with your hands is unsanitary?
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How did they measure "penile circumference" over time? Is there a guy standing next to them with a tape measure?
Probably some sort of pressure cuff that they measured changes in air pressure, or something similar?
Elastic ring that can measure how much it streched.
Makes sense. Albeit I find the idea of someone holding a tape measure more funny.
That's what I was wondering for quite some time for developing a recreationa..... aaaaah medical device using an esp32 that can control other hardware over Bluetooth. A sttetch sensor or pressure cuff might work, but it might be nicer not to have it work like a blood pressure measurement machine.
really hot male lab assitant measures it closely
installing a glory hole in the lab for double-blind studies
It’s basically the same thing as a ring fit adventure, a strain gauge, though research ones are far more sensitive
These things are used in really sketchy therapy like conversion therapy. They were also used in pedophilia treatment in the 90s which was basically conversion therapy to track outcomes, basically exactly as what’s written here (though they wouldn’t present actual illegal material, just risqué material like pictures of kids at the beach or something). Penile plethysmography is the area and it’s still practiced in some places, though it’s pretty controversial because they’re evaluating sex offenders for risk of recidivism and viability of release which is always inherently controversial and other more obvious reasons
It is also controversial because sexual arousal is far from the only reason men have erections.
This study is an example, there's an alternate interpretation that affirms homophobia is actually the result of repressed sexuality, in general. Thus any sexual stimuli would be arousing. Thus causing an erection, regardless of the gender displayed, and irrespective of the person's sexual orientation.
This tracks with the fact that almost all homophobes are politically conservative, tend to be highly religious, or are very young and immature. They all coincide with environments prone to sexual repression.
The other variation is that anger also causes arousing.
This study was too small to control for those kind of factors.
So interesting thing here: both groups were aroused at heterosexual and lesbian stimuli.
The homophobic ones responded to the homosexual stimuli.
The guys were bi. Sort of explains why they argue "everyone chooses to be gay or straight." Because they have decided they have to.
This also explains the more-frequent-than-i-enjoy conversation about how "no, there really isn't a celebrity I'd go gay for."
I feel like bisexuality is way more common than what we see. And if anything, I feel like the reason why so many women are more likely bi or willing to experiment vs men is literally just the bullshit stigma against being seen as gay.
And this may just be my experience, but being bisexual isn't as easy as just choosing one or the other. The problem is that if you repress that much of your sexuality it only grows more... Intense. And sometimes more depraved, which is never a good thing. And I feel like that's why a lot of those men end up getting caught doing "gay" things but it's never just normal stuff. It's always super crazy shit they get caught doing because it's been repressed for so long that they make awful impulse decisions on feelings they've been ignoring for years. Like holding in your anger for 30 years and then going absolutely fucking mental when your coworker takes your parking spot.
I think a lot of these men are bisexual but heteroromantic, thus why suppressing their sexual desires are easier.
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They could have experienced attraction towards women because of compulsory heterosexuality. Basically they grew up being told they can only be attracted to women so they forced their attraction.
Similar thing happened to me except I'm not homophobic. Didn't realize I am attracted to men until after I transitioned. I'm not sure yet, but I may actually be more attracted to men now than I ever was to women.
I'm not denying that they could be bi, but I'm wondering if maybe some are just forcing attraction.
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As someone that used to be homophobic in highschool, I can confirm this is the case. My dad is super homophobic yet all of his kids, including myself, are at least bisexual.
To my knowledge there is no hard evidence for sexuality being primarily genetical?
Yeah, I think you are right and I couldn't find anything. I just find it highly suspicious that my dad is hardcore homophobic when more than half of his immediate family is gay or bisexual. Like, even his brother is gay.
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There is evidence. See the fraternal birth order effect for just one example:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraternal_birth_order_and_male_sexual_orientation
And scientists have created lesbian mice:
https://bmcgenomdata.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2156-11-62
(Side note: it's hilarious they shorthanded the enzymes to FucM)
Waitwaitwait... The homophobic men displaying arousal: Yeah, sure, of course.
But NONE of the non-homophobic men got even a little ruffled? That's the real surprise here.
Well, they did specifically look for heterosexual non-homophobic men. Apparently, every one they got was honest about their sexuality, both to the researchers as to themselves.
"Two dudes fuckin', cool. Not my thing, but it looks like they're having a good time and that's awesome."
I've had that exact reaction many times at BDSM events. (Technically, that first comma needs to move one word to the left.)
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Typical of these evil, woke scientists to try to make good upstanding citizens gay with their evil sciencing. Good thing President Trump is putting an end to all this.
Maybe this explains that odd "prayer" group hug of Republicans in the Capitol that was posted these days ;-)
I could also imagine that the causality is (partly) the other way around. Demonizing homosexuality makes it a taboo for them and taboos are the base for all kinds of fetishes.
Wouldn't say so, you still kinda need gay tendencies to find a kink in your taboo that is himusexuality itself.
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IIRC, this hasn't been debunked per se, but it was a very small, very limited study, and doesn't really do a great job of explaining homophobia in a broader population. (I mean, you're talking about 64 people in total; depending on your inclusion criteria, that could be a meaningless sample size.) Penile plethysmography is a proxy for sexual arousal; it's useful in some instances--like predicting whether or not someone will commit more sexual offenses in the future--but isn't even that great in those instances. If I remember correctly, there's strong evidence that disgust is a trait strongly associated with conservatism, and homophobia is a an extreme disgust reaction.
FWIW, I was casually--but quite virulently--homophobic when I was younger. I'd been raised in a very conservative, evangelical religious group, and I believed all the bullshit that I'd heard about gay people. That changed once I lost religion, and actually met people that were gay. That, of course, is only anecdotal evidence, and does assume that I'm neither gay nor bisexual (and I don't believe that I am), but it fits with what I've seen from conservative thought.
Maybe they were just thinking of fishing together
I don't remember where this was from, but remember if effing funny and fitting here 😁
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I really don't like the idea of citing this study. It's always this same one from the 90s, and if it were acurate I expect the results would have been reproduced more. It's also not clear that the results indicate what the paper says. There's other reasons than sexual arousal that could explain the results. It could be they're imagining the scenario and are axious or disgusted by it. There's this paper that indicates homophobia is usually caused by fear or hate.
I don't like the idea of putting the blame for homophobia on closeted queer people. It's seems extremely likely to me that most homophobic people are straight, since most people are straight. Also we should respect other people's own identification instead of trying to force labels on people, even if they're bigots.
If you disagree with the science, perhaps you should do your own study?
Critique and analysis of a study or experiment is the default. It isn't a religion; science thrives on repeat analysis.
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Even though this study seems kinda doubtworthy, that's what I've said for over 3 decades now. The louder they scream "evil!" The more "evil" they themselves are.
watch out, you're going to get a couple of frothing leftists saying it is homophobic to portray any homophobe as gay
Attraction to women doesn't make people not misogynist.
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