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[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 108 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I can't afford a European vacation either. I'm from Europe.

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 36 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I knew I wouldn't be able to afford a vacation so I moved to a scenic tourist destination with a view of the fjord and drink coffee on my balcony. That way I can pretend. I also get one of the kids to throw a dishtowel over their arm and carry a small notebook while they ask me how I take the coffee thats been sitting in the pot for a half hour already.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 11 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

In what hell hole of Europe are you, that you don't get freshly brewed espresso?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 14 points 9 hours ago

Only the Finnish can be that enthusiastic about the gloom

North Europe probably.

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

I'm the only person in my family who drinks coffee. I'm not going to buy an espresso machine. But yeah if I went to a cafe, restaurant or petrol station I'd get espresso.i just don't have a proper espresso machine at home.

[–] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

That's how it starts. Just let it develop for a century or something and you'll probably be decent at it

[–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 12 hours ago

Unfortunately, it doesn't work like that. You have to lobby to change zoning laws to make it happen.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 37 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Look what they have to do to mimic a fraction of our holidays.

[–] Baylahoo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago

I get your reference but this is a pretty small amount of effort haha

[–] 2910000@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago

This is genuinely really classy

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 10 points 14 hours ago

That looks nice

[–] iii@mander.xyz 10 points 14 hours ago (5 children)
[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 55 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

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This, but private seating in your personal driveway.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 16 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Wait, outdoor sitting is a thing only in europe?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

Basically yes.

We don't do that in the US anywhere near as much.

Maybe a park will have a table and bench, maybe some certain restaurants in certain parts of certain cities will have them.

But its much, much less common, as our society is designed to be unwalkable, designed for cars and parking lots and air conditioning.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago

Most places where I am in California have outdoor seating options, but it’s more common to have it behind the restaurant in a little courtyard than in front right next to the street.

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

While I generally agree with the sentiment, the distinction is if there's outside seating it's either a park, or owned by a restaurant. It's not like the blend of the street, sidewalk, businesses you see in Europe

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I agree with your specification.

The kind if mixed use, areas that are walkable, have seating, various kinds of shops... usually only in a few districts of a few fairly large towns or large cities.

There is seating, sometimes, in like... restaurants in basically a strip mall type set up... but they're like islands, surrounded by acres of parking lots.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Where have you been in the US?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

All the way up and down the West Coast, multiple times, over the course of more than 2 decades of being driving age... from Bellingham WA down to LA / San Diego... many, many places in between... also many places all the way out to South Dakota via I 90.

If I gave you a full list, I'd have to rewrite Johnny Cash's "I've been everywhere"... I've actually been to a good number of places in the original lyrics.

[–] Homesnatch@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

The towns and cities around me in Massachusetts have quite a bit of restaurant outdoor seating on sections of sidewalk.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, I'm in Jersey and it's pretty easy to find places with outdoor seating. Got several in my small town.

I will say that the feel is not quite the same as sitting somewhere in Paris, or Nice, or Aix. They angle all the chairs to face outward, I've noticed, and the tables are so often just tables for two. I'm sure I'm misremembering a bit, but the sentiment still stands, to me. The outdoor seating is almost geared toward sit here and look out, not at your tablemate, and do some people watching. I love it.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Anywhere in MA I can rent a studio apt for ~$700 a month?

Probably not lol, I'm on SSDI, but an actual proper city/town sounds great!

[–] Homesnatch@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Not anywhere near here.. Maybe western MA, but that's a completely different vibe.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Fire codes prevent it in NA for a large part. Building have specific occupancy limits, and having booted down seats has exceptions for more space than loose chairs, and businesses usually want the capability of having the largest revenue, so most seats.

Now this also applies outside as those would have to be part of their property. In most cities restaurants and the sort they are built right to their property limits, or they incorporate a patio with set seating.

So if you do see it, it’s not movable furniture, but an actual area. Now along one of our drivable Aves they’ve made compromises, picture below, I don’t hate the solution, but it’s obviously not ideal and hard to accommodate wheelchairs.

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They’ve allowed sidewalks to be patios, and let some road space be made into the “sidewalk”, but it’s not a perfect solution, especially when it starts snowing.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

It's a thing on most of the world. But it seems not to be a thing on a large part of the US.

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[–] v01dworks@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I think it’s a joke about people sitting outside at cafes in Europe?

I’ve heard this is a thing a lot of Americans find weird but I’m American and it’s not weird at all to me, we do literally the same thing here (at least in my home state)

[–] BossDj@piefed.social 11 points 14 hours ago

Except the sidewalks are too tiny so the cafe is allowed to partition a section of the street for their tables

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

It looks like they are at a sidewalk cafe in Europe. The Sangria implies Spain. Tiny tables and chairs and everyone is smoking.

[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 20 points 14 hours ago

Aperol Spritz

[–] roserose56@lemmy.ca 9 points 14 hours ago

More of a local and graphic village, with small restaurants/bars, drinking sangria or or Aperol.

[–] hector@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

That's Paris, I recognize it from the building and the texts are in French. Do a reverse search on Google and I'm pretty sure it's right ehehe

[–] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

I also do not get it

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Very nice.
But can you sit like that for four weeks on end?

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

I was talking about this with a friend. The younger generations got screwed over because we have to evaluate what we value more, and give up one over the other to achieve one of the life goals. I managed to save for a house; but only because I lived with my parents for many years before moving out, I don't have a car and I haven't gone on foreign holidays in years. Meanwhile, my friend has travelled in so many countries but he doesn't have enough savings for a house. The boomer generation have been able to afford to live their life to the fullest with just a single household income, and didn't have to give up any or all of their life goals, values and desires.

[–] brown_guy45@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 hours ago

Me and bros during our vacations

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 hours ago

I don't think I'll even ever leave my continent at this point, but I do have a driveway…

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Not enough hostel smelling of Pachouli

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