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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

So glad the literal antisemites came out on this post to play apologist for ethnically cleansing Israeli Jews 'back where they came from' in Europe for the crime of being born in Israel. I'm trying to think of how this differs from the Nazis wanting to deport Jews to Israel, but I'm coming up with a blank.

I guess there must be something substantially different, though, because obviously these brave anti-imperialists would never be antisemites. Even when they advocate for literal fucking genocide based on the very compelling and principled argument of "Israel committed genocide first!" /s

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All of the people I've seen advocating that are talking about the people who were not born in Israel.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Is it really ethnic cleansing when the ethno-state they built continues to genocide their neighbors with the approval of the vast majority of its citizens?

By that logic that birth in Israel gives the right to stay there, this would in turn mean that this birth revokes the right to compensation for the ancestors that were murdered in the Holocaust or survived it and chose not to go back to Germany.

You cant have it both.

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[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Though I see few anti-semitic remarks, other than the ones about Palestinians.

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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

Fuck Israel, genocidal scum!

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

Hating on the Israeli government is bound to attract "the other group who has similar things to say and a bit more". Now suddenly we are all group into the anti-semite barrel by Israel. Master class false dichotomy there.

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 5 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

As long as:

Stolen land is given back, and criminals prosecuted,

Sure.

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[–] Kinperor@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

It's my understanding that it is occurring naturally on its own, anyways?

A few reporting I've heard on Israel describes a state filled with dual-citizenship inhabitants that are used to first-world standard and would rather leave the country than deal with inconveniences. I oversimplify here, but who really wants to live in a genocidal state? Whether you're on board or not with the genocide, it's still a massive point of friction with neighbors.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (6 children)

I have a solution: we force the region to start respecting human rights or we start incarcerating offenders. We don't need to build a bunch of condos for the palestinians, we don't need to give them lawyers or outsource their legal disputes, we don't need to help either side militarize against the other: we just need to hold them to a bare minimum standard by force and they'll sort the shit out in a few decades.

This is what the ICJ was made for. These are the rules we all agreed to play by after WWII. They fucked around, it should be the right of anybody and everyone who wants to interfere to go in and make them find out.

BTW human rights should include not being segregated into walled off districts.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Problem is who gave us right to force people in the other side of the world to do this?

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