The fact that he ever had an approval rating with Gen Z is mind-boggling.
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I assume it had to do with the parents being supporters too.
Also the incel shits like that tate fucker being targeted towards young men.
That movement has done so much damage, there isn't a hole deep enough to throw manosphere influencers into
I would say the Mariana Trench, but I don't want to pollute the oceans.
Well the oceans already pretty bad. How bout we chopper them out to the plastic island and they can live on its surface, choking on old coke bottles for sustainance?
What's wrong with the classic volcano sacrifice?
I think people forget that the 19 year olds voting for him were 10 when the “Grab ‘em by the pussy” shit happened. Not that it’s an excuse to not pay attention but a lot of the people who voted for him didn’t have the benefit of hindsight and spent the entire pandemic alone in their rooms listening to Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate.
Yeah, and it also feels "forever ago" when you're that age. Literally half their lives. So I could understand them thinking it's "old news", but when you're an old and crusty 40 year old, you know that a 60 someone saying heinous shit means that person is deeply twisted.
I was just at lunch, the table next door had a bunch of Trump gear on, even the teenagers. I overheard bits of conversation and it was totally normal stuff, which makes me wonder what attracts people to such a gross person
If you’re just watching the evening news and not looking into things further, Trump is not painted in such as light as we see in say articles linked here on Lemmy. Abrego Garcia? Well that was just one mistake. Mistakes happen right? I’m sure they’ll fix it. Then you move on with the rest of your life without giving it more thought. I think that is how seemingly “normal” people buy into this.
Media sanewashing honestly.
They treat a complete fascist as if he's a normal politician of a normal party.
That's how.
There's also a degree to which conservative media and conservative culture teach their people to act like they are more inline with the mainstream. There's old stuff that's been going on forever like using coded language so they talk about an "urban problem" instead of openly saying that black people are the problem or they'll talk about "New York people" instead of openly saying that Jewish people are the problem. If you haven't been exposed to that then some of what they're saying can sound somewhat reasonable.
Then there is the "respect" thing. Conservative parents are big about emphasizing how you say something over what you say. So they're fine with saying that disabled people should just die as long as it's not phrased that way. It should sound more like "It's sad that some people are sick but there are only so many resources and we need to put them where they're most productive. Hopefully their family can take care of them." It's more etiquette than real respect but they make a big deal out of it.
Gen Z was around 12-27 years old during the election. I think part of it could honestly be due to brain development.
Also the youth vote usually doesn't support the incumbent as kids kinda like to rebel.
Supporting the conservative party which seeks to undo progress and maintain the status quo as a form of "rebellion" is so goddamn typical of idiot kids. The elderly and young people agree on one general stance: "idk wtf you're talking about and I absolutely don't like it or want it."
The shrink of our memories and attention spans will have been our undoing. It's probably already over, and it'll be another 50 years or so before people realize it. Idk if we can ever recover from all of this, so I'm just gonna drink and play video games between chores today instead of watching for current events.
It's important to take breaks from the doom and gloom. We can take a day off from rearranging deck chairs once in a while. We owe it to ourselves.
They're not doing it to be contrarian. They're doing it because the Republican party has spent more time than they've been alive establishing themselves as the anti-establishment party as well as the victims, and the good ol' fascist play of giving young men disillusioned with the bad things in their lives an easy target to blame rather than blaming the people who are actually at fault - the Republicans.
There are 40+-year-olds who were surprised when Rage Against the Machine didn't support Trump. What machine did they think they were raging against? The Democrats of course, well known for being the party of the establishment and the status quo. Not like those scrappy Republicans, looking out for the common man while the Dems look down from their big-city ivory towers with disdain.
When you're young you want to rebel against the establishment. They are being told the establishment wants rights for women and gays and men's rights are being taken away. So they are going the opposite direction to be contrarian. Unfortunately young men at that age have very little empathy for anyone else. They have to know what's in it for them.
Gen Z was explicitly not taught how to read properly. It’s very difficult to not be conspiracist and think it was on purpose. Phonics was thrown out entirely for years. Teachers spoke up about it not working, and were forced to work the programs anyway.
This is why they set up the bill to kick in after the midterms.
Yep it'll all be the Dems fault. Everyone will have forgotten about this bill and right wing media will push the lie. Easy money they say.
What's worse is dems might win and those same dumbasses that voted for them will question why they didn't unfuck decades of this shit in a single term and then sit on their lazy asses the election after.
And thus the cycle will repeat.
And even worse yet it'll be by the razor-thin 50:50 majority we always give them and they will STILL take the full blame in an endless cycle of self destruction.
"WhY DIdn'T YoU AMMeNd ThE COnstiTUTIon DeMS?! Wy nO ImpeAcH anD ReMoVe?!"
Yeah. They expect to lose the midterms. Let the bill kick in, and then blame the Democrats for it. ‘How could they let this happen?! Vote for us in 2028 to get your healthcare back’ or something like that.
Repeat after me: He doesn't fucking care.
too late for post-nut clarity, kids. he's not just a person he's a cultural moment y'all embraced and is going to take a lot more of a "well maybe he's not that great for the economy" to unfuck ourselves from. how about some introspection about why we're attracted to narcissists or so deeply spiritually moved by shitty tough-man antics? where's that political analysis?
Yeah. But they saved Gaza.
/s
What amazes me is that there are still people who look at what Donald Trump has done in his life, what he has said and done to become president (twice!) and what he's done since taking office. They look at all this, take a big huff of their own farts and say "I approve of this"
I can't imagine that it takes anything less than a very special kind of cognitive disability to be intelligent enough to use twitter, but dumb enough to support this petulant, stroppy, bafflingly stupid man-toddler.
There has been a concerted effort for the last 15 to 20 years by the alt-right to court young disillusioned men and women using divisiveness and the slowly declining status quo as a lever.
Doesn't matter that the insanely wealthy right wing is primarily responsible for pushing the deterioration, it only matters that the insanely wealthy liberals in the government haven't done anything substantive to stop it.
For reference, see Nancy Pelosi's fucking dedicated ice cream fridge she showed off in an interview to seem relatable.
His polling numbers dont matter. Either he cannot run for president again or he fucks up the government bad enough to allow him to, in which case the vote is going to be rigged AF anyway.
And yet Gen Z still didn't do anything. Loud and proud, until it comes to actually doing anything.
Im gen z and I voted Harris. I also attended no kings Chicago. Not all of us are just sitting and watching this happen but enough are that it makes us look bad.
Too fucking late man. Dudes already in office wrecking the country..
Dumbasses needed to see him do it live rather than google the existing data on how disastrous his last term was. Last time he was in office, they were listening to Baby Shark. "It happened 5 years ago so that's ancient history. I've got better things to do, like doomscrolling Tiktok for 8 hours"
He could be the most hated man in history and it don’t mean shit if you don’t get off your ass and vote.
Just wait about 20 minutes, Newsweek will have a headline about fascism and GenZ. I loath that clickbait factory.
It doesn't matter.
Way too fucking late...
If the US still had free and fair elections, they’d be worried
IF it's from Newsweek, it's just a shitty clickbait title with nothing of actual substance in the actual article. Lemmy users need to stop posting Newsweek links, it is not a good source to trust.
How it got to any measurable levels in the first place is the real mystery.
This will have no effect on what happens to us going forward.
Approval rating collapsing after the election? Is that the modern version of the "closing the barn door after the horse got out" saying?
27% approval rating, like, you have to TRY and get that low.
If you didn't recognize what he was after the disaster that was his first administration, all his admission of what he said he would do, and then still either voted for him or didn't vote because you didn't recognize the repeat threat he was and couldn't get off your fat ass to vote to prevent him from taking office, I'm sorry, but you're in the group of people who can't handle responsibilities of being a fucking adult.
I guess better late than never but time will tell. 8 months ago would have been nicer...