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Words matter.

You aren't writing an academic paper. Always use simple direct language.

  • Help the poor
  • Healthcare for everyone
  • Good treatment at work.

Don't use complex words.

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[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 143 points 1 day ago (3 children)

One of many lasting “gifts” of Reagan.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We’ve got to get all those ~~welfare queens~~ 25 year old males playing video games back to work! They’re getting a free ride that they don’t deserve. People only have value when they are working!

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 28 points 1 day ago

He started that evil welfare queen idea back in California. It gained traction there so he continued to use it on the national side.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

dont you love the misogyny in that "queens" label? because who makes a better scapegoat than black mothers?

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[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] Graphy@lemmy.world 70 points 1 day ago (24 children)

Propaganda works

I’ve always said that if you really wanted communism or socialism to take off in the states you’re gonna have to call it something else

I also don’t use cis because the machine has already made that a thing people don’t want to be called

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 39 points 1 day ago

I don’t mind being called a cis male, but I’m secure in my sexuality and manhood. Conservatives not so much.

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This one gets it. The key takeaway should be that humans are very fallible and propaganda works alarmingly well.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We shouldn't be trusted with our own care.

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[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, straight/heterosexual people didn’t want to be called that, either. They want being cis and heterosexual to just be “normal” and any variation to be abnormal. Fuck that, they’ll do the same thing to whatever euphemism you pick instead.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They got me! I have to admit, "welfare" leaves a bad taste in my mouth where "helping the poor" sounds fair enough. I grew up under Reagan, heard the bullshit, know it's bullshit, I get it.

And you know damned well what those words really mean. Welfare = black, poor people = whites. (That's from a GenX perspective.)

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 33 points 1 day ago

Welfare = black, poor people = whites.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

To me the negative connotation of "welfare" is, Kafkaesque bureaucracy used to gate access. Actually being on it feels more like you are playing a fucked up game than receiving assistance.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

People acting like gaming welfare is easy. Fuck me, it's a full-time job getting anything at all.

For example: Been thinking about trying to get some food stamps. Wife works, I'm unemployed, maybe get a little of the tax money back from when I was making bank? Maybe get a pittance of unemployment? I can scarcely imagine navigating all the bullshit if I wasn't technically capable. Kafkaesque bureaucracy indeed.

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[–] dufkm@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So weird. As a Scandinavian, "welfare" to me means schools, healthcare, elderly care, sick pay, paid parental leave etc., paid for by the shared burden of taxes for the benefit of everyone.

It is a word with entirely positive connotations for me.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Ah, ~40% of Americans are complete fucking morons, that sounds about right.

~40% of Americans also read and write at an elementary school level or worse, but I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

... I think we've found the mythical 'independent, median voter'.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Ah, ~40% of Americans are complete fucking morons, that sounds about right.

You're leaving out the 29% who are against it no matter what you call it.

[–] thevoidzero@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Those are evil people, who do not want to help other people. But this 40% are the people who would do the correct thing but they are convinced it's bad and vote against their interest

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[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

54% of Americans read at below a grade 6 level.

Welfare is may litterally just mean 'moocher' to an American who has been drowned in propaganda their whole life.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

because welfare has been propagandized as used by "lazy and homeless, and poors, and blacks" its usually based on racism as well, the true welfare queens are Conservative voters.

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[–] WatDabney@fedia.io 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Think of how stupid the average person is, then realize that half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin

[–] liverbe@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I heard a working theory that we have too many humans on the planet. Some of them were supposed to be reincarnated as ferrets or insects but came back as humans instead. These are the people who are now in charge.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think it's hyperbole to say that modern medicine has saved the life of too many idiots who went on to have idiot children. It's hard to have that conversation without people assuming you're venturing into eugenics but it is a real thing.

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[–] Mamdani_Da_Savior@lemmy.world 32 points 23 hours ago

As someone that works with the general public.

People are fucking dumb. Like not I'm not even kidding, there's a skill gap to even get to a site like this...and not everyone has the ability to do it...I'm not even kidding. People are just stupid.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 24 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The timeline is this. The 1950s boomed and created the middle class. Why? FDR decided subsidizing the American people, instead of the robber Baron class, was the way. This subsidy approach to the working class had never happened before in American history.

A middle class cannot happen organically in a capitalist society. It requires government subsidy.

The 50s were built on the backs of women, forcibly ejecting them from workplaces to be housewives, and excluded people who were not white. But the American middle class was born due to these subsidies.

And so it went.

Then, in the 80s. The concept of the evil welfare queen was touted on the national level, and our government decided subsidizing corporate instead of a middle class was the way.

This doesn’t happen overnight, but they begin chipping away at subsidies for Middle Class America and flip those subsidies to corporate America. The belief is, or at least the sales pitch is, subsidizing corporate America is more fiscally efficient than subsidizing the middle class and will ultimately benefit everyone to create a booming, thriving nation.

And so it goes for 40 yrs. Both parties, in tandem.

The chipping away to go back to the subsidizing of a middle class started in the oddest of places. 2020. After the massive destruction of the middle class, and abject proof of how disastrous to the working class subsidizing corporate America is, absolutely squeezing everyone making less than $300k/yr, by the numbers, it was that old man’s admin that tried to shift back on the disaster. Infrastructure, junk fees, internet as an essential utility, student loan forgiveness, etc

The breadth of the problem cannot be fixed in 4 yrs. Or even 8 yrs. Consider how long it took from the 80s to truly feel the oppressive shift of the subsidy change. (I’m old. I mark ~2012-2014 when things started to feel squeezed.)

Also note that you can’t mention Reagan or trickle down economics in this or you lose people.

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[–] NoMadLadNZ@lemmy.nz 24 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yep. Never use a ten dollar word when a 50 cent one does the job better. The left wing needs to dump it's highbrow (and cringe celebrity endorsements) and use the language of the common people in simple terms that cannot be demonised (or would sound insane to try).

Also, this is a prime example of how demonising words, especially buzzwords, is the strategy they use to make it lose all rationality with the public... the notion of being "woke" originally a good thing, welfare a good thing, etc...

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

People are emotional creatures.

Someone was joking in another thread, but maybe we should seriously consider just taking socialism and calling it, like, americanism.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yeah if you want to pitch socialism to people who don't know what it is, just describe its parts as individual policies. Don't actually use the word "socialism" - that makes the rednecks scurred >_>

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[–] Album@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Kinda like ACA/Obamacare.

I'm of the opinion Americans want help and want to help others, but get lost in political rhetoric and a culture war designed to ensure no one gets anything.

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[–] Madagaskar_sky@lemmy.world 22 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Anyone can be poor, but only they are on welfare.

Publishers note: They usually refers to African Americans, but can be used for any suspicious minorities.

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[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

One of the main reasons why USAID was the first part of the government targeted was because of things like this.

If you frame their work as "Assistance to disasters" or other variations, plus the context of it being under 1% of the Federal budget, Americans were find with it. If you call it "giving taxpayer money to foreigners" then it's wildly unpopular.

Which is to say that the lesson is that most people are idiots and have no idea what's going on in the world. Framing a narrative can get the same individual to simultaneously support and hate literally the same thing. It can get people to support policies and actions that directly harm them.

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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

IIRC "ACA" and "Obamacare" had similar divides. Propaganda is a helluva drug.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 18 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Don't use the buzzwords Republicans have spent decades poisoning.

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago

Having briefed a number of senior American bureaucrats and military officers I find it best to use:

  1. words of one syllable or less.
  2. no more than three primary colours.
  3. no numbers larger than 5.
[–] plyth@feddit.org 16 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Assistance implies that it is temporary, that it is help to help themselves.

Welfare implies that it is continuous.

If you have to continually support a part of the population then you have a systemic problem. The correct solution would be to change the system. People who support the continuation of the current system either profit from it or don't see an advantage in a change.

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Assistance implies that it is temporary,

Not it does not. Ever heard of "aim assist"? "Assisted living"? "assistive touch" (the iOS feature)? I don't see how any of these are temporary.

But yeah the correct solution is indeed to change the system. There will always be naysayers who argue that "no one system can suit everybody" so I guess we'll need a system of systems.

[–] Henson@feddit.dk 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

But it doesn't have to be the same group in the population. Probably a portion is the same but the larger picture is all those you help up again so they can help support the community/country/state, and the price is helping the group that otherwise make the community unsafe so they in large can ... act decently to others and live a life without violence

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[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The issue is entirely a media problem. Can you tell yet?

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Just want to point out that this negative association is based on racist dog whistles like the, "welfare queen," which were propagated by right-wingers to convince low-income whites to hate the programs designed to help them.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)
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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Americans are one of the most gullible populations on Earth. Russians are worse...but Americans are not far behind.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Russians may actually be less gullible. Read an interesting article on the subject of Russian propaganda. They know it's bullshit, always have. The government lies, and that's life. Twist is, they view Western media as exactly the same level of propaganda.

tl;dr: Most Americans can't seem to apply critical thinking. Russians don't bother.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Americans, what a bunch of morons

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Could you share the source for the graph please?

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fox News: "Write that down. WRITE THAT DOWN!"

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Soon there will be a critical mass of people who have nothing left to lose

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