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Kilmar Abrego Garcia said he suffered severe beatings, severe sleep deprivation and psychological torture in the notorious El Salvador prison the Trump administration had deported him to in March, according to court documents filed Wednesday.

He said he was kicked and hit so often after arrival that by the following day, he had visible bruises and lumps all over his body. He said he and 20 others were forced to kneel all night long and guards hit anyone who fell.

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 126 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

This is exactly why they didn’t want him to return, and charged him the minute he landed. This story will be testimony for the cruel and unusual punishment that the US has subjected 275+ migrants to with the deportations to CECOT. We just need them to get it in front of SCOTUS.

I also can’t imagine this will bode well for Bukele, given that El Salvador is a member of the ICC, and these actions are very clearly forbidden by the Rome Statute.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 70 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

We just need them to get it in front of SCOTUS.

...you're joking, right? It's clear whose side they're on and it isn't the side of "I'm worried what history books will say about me." There's only three sane justices out of nine.

[–] ernest314@lemmy.zip 21 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

reading their scathing dissents is one of the things that helps me stay sane; god bless the work they do--I don't know how I'd put up with going to work having to deal with blatant gaslighting for the rest of my life

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

They’re not just scathing, they’re instructional. Justice Sotomayor outlined how to challenge the recent SCOTUS ruling on nationwide injunctions. A new injunction based on her guidance was filed three hours after the ruling.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Who knows with the SC? They throw out a reasonable judgement every 3rd or 4th time. Sort of like insurance companies, gotta pay some claims to get good reviews.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yeah I don't think it's a given they will support the president in everything. In fact, I foresee a future showdown with the Supreme Court that has potential to cause a constitutional crisis.

Court says one thing.. executive ignores and does another... what happens? The legitimacy of the government is hanging by a thread. The next couple years will decide the next 20

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

In fact, I foresee a future showdown with the Supreme Court that has potential to cause a constitutional crisis.

What evidence do you have for this? Honestly asking here.

I mean, the SCOTUS basically ruled the federal level electeds, appointeds, and hirees all have qualified immunity for "official acts", and "official acts" are anything Trump says. The SCOTUS also ruled the courts cannot stop the POTUS from doing anything, except in extremely narrow ways. The SCOTUS also ruled that every regulation is a government overreach. The SCOTUS also ruled money is speech. The SCOTUS also ruled that Trump can, at will, deploy the military on US soil to wage war against it's citizens.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

That’s not entirely correct. “Official acts” are to be determined by the judge presiding over the case. Since no charges against the President have been filed or heard, “official acts” have yet to be legally defined.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 36 minutes ago

So, official acts are going to be determined by judges appointed by Trump? How do you think that will work out?

BTW, charges were laid against Trump, and he was convicted. And then, served no jail time, and the sentence was commuted.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago* (last edited 15 minutes ago)

For a recent example, they said the president cannot deport people under the Alien Enemies Act and that the government needs to give people a reasonable timeline to get a lawyer and mount a legal defense.

The federal government lost that one (for now at least.. they sent the question of Alien Enemies Act back to lower courts.. but not habeus corpus)

What happens if in a couple of months, the federal government just sends some people to El Salvador under the Alien Enemies Act- directly ignoring the SC?

This would fit in with the administration's strategy. Do legally dubious things to cause chaos. Ie sending troops into LA totally unnecessarily. Why? Cause protests, legal doubts about whether or not federal government has a right to use military against domestic citizens.

Or the military parade.. or the tariffs.. defunding NOAA hoping for a destructive hurricane, etc. It's chaos for the sake of chaos. Same reason they deported the Venezuelans in the first place without habeas corpus.

It's a concerted and consistent effort to weaken the public institutions until they feel like enough is enough and deal the final blow. The moment where they finally roll the die and cross the Rubicon.

The SC is the only one that has the potential to stand up to the administration. I firmly believe there will be a showdown.

Note- The "official acts" thing has more nuance although that can of worms is not something I have time for. But when that ruling happened, I read the opinions the justices.

Not everything counts as an official act. For example Reagan's Iran Contra business would not have fallen under the definition.

You or I may not agree with the SC on every ruling. But the individuals on there, for the most part, are scholars of the constitution and hold a deep respect for it. It's why even people like Kavanaugh who was appointed by Trump will sometimes rule against his interests.

We may disagree on some interpretations but these people genuinely believe in the rule of law. This will inevitably clash with the administration.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 16 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Ten bucks nothing happens.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

No thanks. I don't need to waste my money.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 8 points 1 hour ago

We just need them to get it in front of SCOTUS.

What do you think that would accomplish? Case gets to SCOTUS, SCOTUS rules the administration was 100% correct, they are all terrorists, and anyone who defended them is also able to be denaturalized and deported to CECOT.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

So many people will hopefully sue and get settlements down the line, i just wish the global community could punish the US for all this bullshit

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 points 57 minutes ago (1 children)

If a Presidential candidate ran on the platform of "we're going to join the Hauge, and give up our veto power at the UN" I would vote for them.

[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 5 points 36 minutes ago (1 children)

Eh... We just need to get rid of veto powers and have an actual enforcement arm.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 points 34 minutes ago

Right? The Federation is a long shot but we're not even getting the backstory from The Expanse at this point

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 3 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

Can't sue. They were "official acts". So, everyone in the federal government who is a Reich Winger has qualified immunity for anything they do.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 36 minutes ago

First has to be a WWIII...

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 33 minutes ago

The official acts ruling refers only to criminal charges, not civil suits. (afaik, idoanal, etc)

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 2 points 21 minutes ago

You don't have to be on the Left to not be on the Reich

I feel like a lot of people miss this point

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

This problem was made by the US for the US. World cannot save US from themselves. Just as US does not have any jurisdiction over El Salvador. They are just exploiting it for personal psychopathy. Which is a step beyond even Hitler.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 4 points 23 minutes ago

It's a torture camp, explicitly known for being a torture camp, and used by Trump's administration for that purpose.

"Coming to the US? We might pay El Salvador to torture you."