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Alligator Auschwitz
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Call it by what it is:
Alligator Auschwitz
Whoa, I hope that catches on. Fr, that's spot on.
It's definitely catching on.
Oh, you mean the name, not the idea. Thing is, people who are still okay with all this will embrace such a name, they don't have any compassion to care, ridicule or not.
denial is a powerful weapon. along with propaganda, gaslighting, state controlled media, money-- all things deployed to make the average, normally decent human being witness the atrocities going on around them and say "i mean, this is america. we wouldn't allow masked men to kidnap people for no reason" as they watch their literal american citizen neighbor getting kidnapped, imprisoned, deported. murdered. for no reason
File that along with Hillary Clinton in the debate telling us exactly what Trump would do. People called her a liar then too.
LOL see my comment in that thread
I certainly concur.
watching this happening in real time makes me wonder if the only reson germany lost was bc they started a war. bc rn it seems like we r doing what germany did but havent started a world war yet which will be interesting bc wed prob end up like russia, china, and NK etc. everyone know there are concentratiosn camps and human right violations but nobody would do anything bc there isnt a valid reason too yet bc if anyobe does anything, itll be taken as a sign of aggression and possibly war
Nazi Germany kinda had to start wars because their spending wasn't sustainable: they had significant yearly deficits and they were always looking for ways to push forward the day that Germany would become insolvent. They stole the assets of outgroups like the Jewish minority, financially raided the banks, had the treasury print money to pay of debts, implemented price and wage controls to stave off inflation because of printing too much money, ... None of it was sustainable in the long term. The longer term plan was to conquer other nations and plunder those.
And very unfortunate for the world today: the spending by usa republicans isn't sustainable either + the usa has a very big army. Some people would say that the usa republicans couldn't possibly be that stupid to rob or invade their peaceful trade partners, but ... a lot of republicans are pretty damn stupid and short sighted, including the president.
a lot of republicans are pretty damn stupid and short sighted, including the president.
They aren't just stupid, many on the right are religiously dedicated to the idea of a judgement day and devastating war between 'good and evil'. They are convinced 'God is on their side'. Evangelical Christian fascists have been pushing this for years, it was almost guaranteed to come to direct conflict from the course the US has been on unless there was some kind of intervention long ago.
Trump keeps talking about annexing Canada though. Hitler didn’t need to invade Poland or any of the other nations he Blitzkrieged, but there it is.
He has fallen quiet about that though. I wonder if someone with an ounce of historical knowledge told him that if you’re going to fascist, don’t start wars at the same time.
If Israel manages to send the US to war it may start a chain reaction.
Anyone who believes this can be stopped through any means other than revolt is either a fool or a liar. Take up arms, organize with your community, and fight back.
i see this posted a lot. so why don't you go do it yourself? i know why: because you KNOW that taking up arms and attacking ICE will make Trump send his army at you to kill you, and all this will accomplish is make you a martyr they can use in propaganda OR ignite a full on civil war. i am tired of seeing this post. stop encouraging people to do things that YOU YOURSELF find unreasonable to do. and if you find it reasonable, than put up and shut up and stop fucking posting about it to look cool. we'll see you on the news.
ignite a full on civil war
It's already a civil war.
Don't mistake me I basically agree with everything your saying, but make no mistake we are Germany in the '30s, whatever you are doing is what you would have done then.
We're all on the internet talking tough about it while the camps are being built...
I bought a gun, I bought ammo, I have encouraged friends to do the same and taken them out to learn how to use a firearm, as many of them had never done so before. We are organizing, we are preparing, we are waiting for the moment the first shot is fired to rise.
I went out, got a permit to purchase, and bought a gun plus ammo shortly after Trump was elected. I have been prompting friends and others to do the same, organizing who I can to the cause. I am no fool, one man with a gun can't solve this, nor do I believe myself to be some great revolutionary leader who will lead the nation into the future. So, instead, I promote the cause, I continue to try to organize and prepare for the eventual war that is to come, and remind people like You that You have done nothing and continue to do nothing. You can change that, the revolution does not only need fighters, but those willing to spread the message of rebellion, and those willing to do what they can to support the cause. Stand with us, or stand aside.
America started down this path all the way back in 9/12/2001. We didn't hold Bush accountable, Obama, Trump, or Biden. Now the lunatic is using the tools provided to him.
O'bama
This is killing me lol
TIL Obama is of irish decent.
https://www.irishfamilyhistorycentre.com/article/president-barack-obamas-irish-ancestry/
Didn't know he was half-irish 😃
Honestly, it started sooner I think, or more to the point, it's had this sort of tendency lurking in the background for it's whole history to lesser and greater extents, the last few decades until the current one just being something of a lower period that makes this stand out by contrast.
After all, these aren't exactly the first concentration camps built in or by the United States, the country has a history with forced labor and institutionalized racial supremacy so severe that the country literally split itself apart over it at one point, and it's founding and expansion to it's current borders involved the genocide of those already living on the land in question.
The silver lining to all this I guess, if you can call it that, is that this history and the fact we even had something of a relative lul in all this, implies that as bleak as things look, the racism, nativism, and disenfranchisement can be squashed down again, because it's been done here before.
what's annoying is reading on bsky or mastodon or other places with Americans going "it's happening" or "soon this will be normal" etc it's like no bro, it isn't happening and it isn't soon, it's now. It's already happened. you're living in it. you're a nazi nation. you aren't becoming nazi Germany, you currently are nazi Germany.
you're at the end of that poem. your government is now openly saying they're going to arrest politicians and citizens that don't agree with them. your government is taking away birthright citizenship and very soon they'll go after naturalized citizens and then just straight up regular citizens.
if you're not a white, "straight", christian, male earning over $500mil a year you're fucked. they WILL come for you. They've already laid out the protections for the group previously mentioned. You've lost your country and no amount of peaceful protesting is going to return it to you. There's literally one course of action left but I believe the average American is either too afraid or unwilling to commit to it.
154 million people voted in 2024. That's a hair over 65% of the voting agreed population. Over half of those people supported this shit stain, and even if they disagree with him on some things now, most will still support and defend him.
My personal objections to participating in a armed resistance aside. No one is looking to organize an armed resistance as far as I'm aware and the concept of organizing such a resistance seems nearly impossible for many reasons.
I've seen a few reports of protesters making things more difficult for ICE, but that's about the most resistance I've seen. I'm starting to see why reasonable Germans didn't rise up, it's not that they agreed or didn't want to, it's difficult to organize a resistance. There needs to be a clear leader, good communication channels, a way to vet those who join, and anything else a military operation needs. And even then, you'd be going up against over half the population and the armed forces. And it would be giving a reason for them to use full military force against the citizens.
There is no good end to this, there is no way to stop this from continuing. I think a lot of people are counting on midterms to bring a peaceful end to this nightmare, I doubt we will have that chance and even if we do, the outcome will not be enough to swing the power.
We're fucked.
Oh you see now how impossible it really is to fight back once it's in swing? You either need outside assistance from a hostile country, or you will be dying basically out of spite, accomplishing nearly nothing.
You need something more, something smarter.
you aren't becoming nazi Germany, you currently are nazi Germany.
I can only hope that the body count isn’t as similar as the rest of their playbook.
It is terrifying to consider the very real possibility that the US may have already “deported” thousands of people to a mass grave somewhere. I’m not aware of any evidence of that, but while it would still shock me it would not surprise me.
They took a "Death by a thousand cuts" approach to fascism, and we're about 1200 cuts in.
Ooh, but calling for violence is naughty and will get you banned blah blah blah.
Get your shit together, America.
Until there is legitimate, sustained, and effective opposition to this Alligator Auschwitz, the rest of the world sees it as American as apple pie and school shootings.
It’s speed running to the wrong side of history.
Apple pie isn't American, it's origin is in England and the European mainland afterwards.
School shootings are American and they can keep those.
Dont forget media consolidated and owned by the wealthy
I find it really annoying how Americans are so ignorant of history that they literally cannot make any historical comparisons outside of Nazi Germany. This is the only historical point of reference in American discourse. All historical comparisons default back to it because Americans don't know anything else, not even their own history... like the Japanese Interment camps. Recorded human history is around 10,000 years old and it has everything, but somehow people in this country think there are no historical events or time periods to draw parallels from outside of what happened in central Europe during Hitler's reign.
Yah but to be fair, MAGA isn’t helpful in this regard by being so much like the Nazis.
I mean it's fine to make comparisons if they're valid, but Nazi Germany comparisons are literally the only comparisons that I see. I never see these camps being compared to the Russian Gulags or MAGA being compared to the Know Nothings from the 1850s or Trump being compared to Andrew Jackson, and so on. These comparisons are also accurate and valid, and I would argue that they add an element of depth that our discourse severely lacks.
If you had to compare what's going on AND our trajectory to a horrible historical event, which would it be and why?
I find it really annoying how Americans are so ignorant of history that they literally cannot make any historical comparisons outside of Nazi Germany.
To be fair, all we should need to say is "It's kind of fucked up to do " and people should agree and it should stop. Instead, so much of the media and so many propagandized conservatives are just denying it all and making up excuses. Historically, Nazi's have been universally seen as unequivocally evil so it's the only comparison that we think might get through.
Now though... Musk can fucking salute Hitler twice in a row at the presidential inauguration and calling it out is contentious. We're frankly out of ideas.
Unfortunately, the history taught here (at least where I grew up, but I believe it is like this in most parts of the country) is so US-centric and pre-WWII topical that we didn't learn anything else. I don't think I learned about the Japanese internment camps until law school and I was in "advanced classes" throughout my pre-university years.
Of course people would educate themselves outside of class, but there's a variety of reasons that doesn't really happen. It's quite sad and unfortunate we don't learn about the other atrocities (even those directly caused by the US). I wish it were different.
Slightly off-topic, but we're not even taught the realities of our own history that we're supposedly taught about. Example: the civil war. If you ask many people in certain southern states (and surely some more northern ones too), the reasons they give for the war do not match reality. Or at least they do not come close to telling the whole story. The stranglehold on our education system is bonkers
ignorant, is understatement, i think some areas arnt even teaching history from ww2 and on
They are ALREADY DYING IN THESE CAMPS. We are all complicit at this point.
Go fuck yourself I have been and will continue to do what little I can to fight this and I am not remotely complicit
What are we supposed to do? Go there ourselves? I'm not trying to be a dick but what can normal people do to help?
Depending on your perspective, either the Americans half-assed their camps, or the Germans overbuilt theirs.
We couldn't find any builders for the concentration camps as the builders are in concentration camps.
Speaking as an American, America half-asses everything.
Everything is a grift with them, even genocide. They are probably embezzling most of the funds.