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Mom of 3 'abducted' at gunpoint by 'bounty hunters' in South LA, family says (www.foxla.com)

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A South Los Angeles community activist, Yuriana Juliana "Juli" Pelaez Calderon, was reportedly "abducted" by men in an unmarked car on June 25.
Community leaders are demanding information on her whereabouts and access to an attorney, stating outrage over her detention.
Calderon was able to make a phone call, indicating she is in an unknown warehouse with many others, and believes her captors are bounty hunters.

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[–] Hegar@fedia.io 161 points 1 day ago (1 children)

she was taken to the border at San Ysidro, where she was presented with self-deportation paperwork.

"But when Juli refused to sign the paperwork, when Juli demanded to see a judge, when Juli demanded to speak to an attorney, she was punished," the attorney said. "She was taken back to an unmarked van along with other travelers who were also insisting on their rights, and taken to a warehouse where she was only given water. A warehouse where she was not given food. A warehouse, where men and women were held together. A warehouse without any law enforcement employee, without any official there present," he added.

We're paying for this ethnic cleansing campaign. Tax dollars are going to abducting brown folks at gunpoint.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (3 children)

And that's exactly how Trump voters want it.

[–] sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago

Miserable people for miserable times. More like make Amerika break again.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's exactly what a lot of Taco voters wanted.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Enough with the taco bullshit. It doesn’t work and fucks with good food’s name too. Plus trumps memory is too short to be affected by name calling like that.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Taco is never going to be reading Lemmy.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Indeed, I doubt he even remembers what TACO stands for

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[–] Luouth@lemmy.world 114 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imma just drop this here for a reminder that these people are probably paid by Agent Orange and his diaper assistants:

Nazis Paid Bounty Hunters to Turn In Jews, Book Says

"Dutch bounty hunters in the pay of the Nazis captured thousands of Dutch men, women and children during World War II and sent them to their deaths in concentration camps, a new book says."

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

history sanitizes these assholes as "collaborators". and then talks about people that did the nazis' laundry. or worked in the brewhouse or maybe helped with local councils or something, as if the launderer and wait staff really had a choice, or there weren't gangs actively helping with the hunt.

[–] Luouth@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There were definitely people at the start of the Nazi regime who agreed with Hitler and his way of thinking enough to voluntarily join in/accept payment for acts like this. I am merely highlighting that history has a tendency to repeat itself... get ready for Shitler to force people into doing his bidding when enough people decide they won't act on their own accord

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes. I totally agree.

guess my point is that the ICE agents need to look at what happened to collaborators after the nazis were removed. it's not going to end well for them.

[–] Luouth@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I live in hope that one day, and sooner than it took mopping up the Nazi collaborators, all of these people will be jailed or worse.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

you and me both.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unless they win. Plenty of awful people have been on the right side of history and been written as heroes. Look at how American schools spun Columbus until very recently

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

The end of facism is always the same. Eventually the regime falls and these clowns get what’s coming to them. It’s not an ‘if’, it’s a ‘when’.

They might win tomorrow. They might win next week, ext year. But they’ll lose.

All it takes is one fire to get out of control, and there are dozens of fires burning. Potentially hundreds. All it takes is one loss and we start winning. And they will lose.

Time is not on their side.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Let's not forget the realities of capitalism. When money rules our societies, and when money can buy you literally anything, you will always be able to incentivize people to do anything at all.

I think humans are inherently moral creatures, but if you put them under artificial constraints like economic scarcity, or in prison camps, or otherwise force them to survive under some level of duress, they will always do what they need to to survive.

Combine that with powerful national rhetoric and uniformed men with guns telling you what is right and tell you what to do and we're beyond the concept of free will underpinning the foundations of morality.

Just see the Milgram experiment.

The human mind is supremely easy to manipulate.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Idk if calling someone a collaborator can be considered sanitizing, collaborators have a horrible reputation for good reason.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you're from the Netherlands, born at least 30 years ago then there is nothing sanitizing about the word "collaborator", that's reserved for the lowest of the low

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

The dutch shaved women in the streets simply for sleeping with Nazi soldiers lol. Dutch don't fuck around with collaborators.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 90 points 1 day ago (1 children)

She was kidnapped, and is being held somewhere against her will. This is absolutely insane, and not at all surprising. Doesn’t seem like the actual law enforcement will do anything about it? Or perhaps they are the ones feeding the info to the collaborators?

That has to be terrifying for her family.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Law enforcement does not have to do anything. A person could walk up to you in front of a police officer and stab you to death in full view of a crowd of people, and the cop is under no legal obligation to stop them.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 day ago

Thanks SCOTUS.

[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago

All the pieces were here, and now they’re assembled.

This will only keep happening. :(

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 day ago

The real human traffickers were the Nazi friends the Trump admin made along the way.

[–] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

my europoor ass now more than ever:

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[–] Doubleohdonut@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago

Gestapo

[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

A part of me always feels bad about up voting shit like this just so it becomes more visible to others.

I hope Yuriana Juliana is released and home with her family ASAP!

[–] Trashcan@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I wonder what would happen if you opened fire against these attempts? If you are not identifying yourself as law enforcement, one would fear for ones life and could open fire and protect oneself?

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A guy in Huntington Beach just had his front door literally blown off at 6am and home raided while his wife and young kids were sleeping in the home because he accidently rear ended an unmarked pickup truck that happened to be full of ICE agents a week prior. They accused him of doing it intentionally in order to interfere even though they let him go when it happened and everyone in the family is a US citizen.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

The people that did that have names and addresses. They have families and friends and workplaces. They are real people who can easily be hurt in any number of ways by anyone who happens to know their name.

Be a real shame.

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You die but you kill a few Nazis.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Just remember there are a lot more of us than there are them.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

Far better than "you die in el Salvador"

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You would be gunned down
If you'd miraculously survive, you'd lose in court and go to prison for life
Trump would use it as the catalytic event he was eagerly awaiting to declare martial law.

This is the sad state of the USA.

"The revolution will be bloodless if the left will let it be." / Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts speaking with Steve Bannon on air

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

He will declare martial law regardless.

[–] jimjam5@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I’m no attorney and (luckily) have never been in a situation where I’ve had to use my firearm in defense of my life. But I will say, it depends on the circumstances. In Texas (and other states I’m sure), we are encouraged to only use firearms as a last resort of defense and in a situation where any other action would likely or reasonably result in our death (apart from maybe your home, castle doctrine). So out in public, it would be tricky to justify the use of deadly force where you might otherwise have had the option of running away from your alleged captors, calling local law enforcement, or some other course of action.

If you do survive the encounter, you will see the inside of a courtroom and I have a feeling the proceedings will be biased against you.

That being said, a few tips:

get in range time
don’t miss
don’t shoot anyone from behind
you shouldn’t want to murder people, but if you do open fire, make sure they can’t take legal action against you afterwards…
be able to explain exactly why you did what you did, and in response to questions like “why did you shoot this person?” be sure to avoid phrases like “I had to kill them”

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

You can't expect to be safe running from a gunman in a lot of circumstances

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

In this case where it isn't even ice you would be in the clear if you lived however if 2 armed men approach with guns drawn you not being a fictional character in a western are fucked.

Best bet would be for multiple people to obstruct and delay and get the actual cops hoping an actual gunfight is undesirables for all.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So can we hire some bounty bounty hunters to hunt the bounty hunters and release the captives? Seems legit.

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure, you just won't be able to get funding from the federal government because some lame conflict of interest laws. City or State might have a program, though

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why bother? Just hire some guys pay them whatever money you can raise and get the hired hands to hunt down the bounty hunters. They put on masks call themselves ICE and Bob's your uncle. It's the wild west again ... just do whatever you want with a mask on and a gun. Everyone is doing it and it's the only way to get things done because the government isn't involved in anything anymore.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

I think you can't call youself ICE, but you could make up your own name. Since they are holding people against thier will, and are not law enforcement, I don't know of any laws you would be breaking.

[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I don’t think abducted should be in quotes

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I feel like the only defense is to edge towards a nanny state (live stream everything, gps trackers). There’s no good alternative if the law won’t help. Or you gotta break the law yourself.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

All states are "nanny states"- just because you use a derogatory term for it doesn't change the fundamental principle of what a society is, which is to care for its citizens, run by its citizens, for the benefit of all citizens.

The alternative to it is anarchy.

A "nanny state" (god i fucking hate that ridiculous right wing propaganda term) is the normal state of society.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Indeed, the term was only invented to demonize the Government doing its damn job in favor of a system that can only be described as Ayn Rand style Objectivism for the poor, and Comfortable Socialism for the rich.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wow that’s a new take. Nanny state is definitely a liberal term for not wanting to be tracked by the government. Porn restrictions requiring identification. Police having cameras to track you. That’s all stuff the right want.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

And yet they constantly screech about small gov and all the people mooching off the gov. There are two very different definitions of "nanny state" depending on who you ask. One much more violent than the other.

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 3 points 22 hours ago

I don't understand this. Shouldn't newsome be sending away to this Warehouse? It's either official or it isn't.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Notably the cops can locate any cell phone and mostly identify its user. There should be cops raiding this warehouse as we speak.

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