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[–] CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca 72 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There better be a fucking explanation. To roll over, especially after the most recent 51st state bullshit? You better have a good goddamn reason.

[–] walktheplank@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The explanation is money. Now let's stop this shit. Time to get organized. Start or join a protest group. Let's not wait until it's too late like south of us.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, surely just one little capitulation will win Trump's favour, and not sent him the message that Canada's weak and he should push for more, right?

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

CACO, I guess XD

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 day ago
[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is not what I voted for. What the fuck?

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You voted for Liberals. Their only persistent trait is lying to the public about who they are and then siding with big business once elected.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

Don't forget tgat the government of Canada was created to protect the interests of a blanket retailer. A part of our heritage™

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And I don't think cons would have been any better.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why do people constantly bring this up as if it was a valid argument? Of course the Conservatives wouldn't have been better. No one is saying that they would have. FFS you have other options.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's hard to vote in a principled way knowing that it will lead to one more Conservative MP. We are in a bind with this electoral system, and of course the Liberals benefit most from it so will never change it.

That said, if the Liberals keep acting enough like Conservatives that people don't see a significant difference between their policies, it could undermine strategic voting and open the door to other parties.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Exactly this. I came to this conclusion a long time ago, so I guess it's nice to see others coming around to it.

[–] john_lemmy@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago

You can't really stand up to power by voting, unfortunately. All your choices are just different ways of giving these jackals power with more or fewer steps.

I hope there are local groups and organizations where you're at that you can join to start to organize a grassroots movement.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I sincerely hope you learn something from this. This is the Liberal m.o. and has been for years. They're a big business party, and don't have typical Canadian's interests at heart. Their most redeeming feature is that they're not the Cons.

If you actually care about bettering the lives of typical Canadians, then look at what parties have track records of getting results. (Hint: A lot of Canadians just got dental care.)

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

PP didn't seem like a good choice to me. And there was no way any other party had a shot.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 2 points 19 hours ago

Because we're always told they don't have a shot.

But, let's just say, as of today, nobody votes liberal again. It would likely be the party that also gave use universal healthcare to at least take a minority.

No more vote splitting.

The only party that is remotely aligned with the people is the NDP. (And some greens.)

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[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No, Europe’s just the same

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago

Last month, the U.S. and Britain announced a trade deal related to a range of products. But Britain’s 2-per-cent DST was not affected.

In a statement at the time, U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer said the U.S. “is disappointed that Britain was unwilling to agree to fully address its discriminatory Digital Services Tax.”

Britain kept theirs. They'd probably argue that they aren't European, but y'know.

[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Listen, Canadians, you don't need those tariffs-shmariffs. Just stop buying US shit. That's it. No matter if that is alcohol or software. Stop buying it. And tariffs become just a stupid number for stupid Trump to drool upon.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago

Just stop buying US shit.

Those of us who give a damn are already doing that as much as possible.

Unfortunately the 1000 pound gorilla that is the USA had taken over some parts of our economy to the point where there is no way to avoid them completely.

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Buying stuff from the US isn't affected by US tariffs!?

Tariffs would be when you sell things to the US, and even then you're not the one paying them, it's just the US government charging its citizens extra to buy things

I know it's tough to wrap one's head around an idea so fervently championed yet obviously self-defeating XD

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[–] mycatscool@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago
[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

FUUUUUUUUCK!!!

Stop bending! Stop caving! Stop acquiescing to the fucking deranged dictator baboon running the shit show down south!

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[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

His elbows aint up anymore!

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Well, he lasted a good few weeks.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

It will be left to Canadians to do the poop he can’t.

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

What a weakling.

[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Never ever ever attempt to appease trump.

It will not work. He will never admit when he is wrong

And he is totally untrustworthy and will NOT keep his side of any deal

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The first payments from Canada’s digital services tax, which was enacted last year and applies retroactively to 2022

-Give me your lunch money.
-Ok

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wtf? There better be a good reason why.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Because we entrusted our country to a person that cares about one bottom line only and doesn't actually give a fuck about telling trump to piss off?

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Supply management on dairy. The yanks have hated that for a while, but there's a bunch of Quebecois dairy farmers who really like it. I'm guessing that Carney is giving up the DST since it doesn't have a constituency - if that allows him to keep supply management on dairy, it'll be easier to keep Quebec's support during the next election.

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[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago

Cowardly. Infuriating. Pathetic. 1 term Carney - fool does understand why he was elected. I’m so pissed. Boycott harder.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago

Disturbing, as this was a significant revenue raiser that could help with those disenfranchised through tariffs, or fund the absurd destruction of Canada through 200% military spending increase. Continued US military alliance signals further capitulation, but just as attack on Iran was apparent end of war through victory declaration, there may be a quick return to status quo. OTOH, complete subjugation may be more likely.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'll never vote for a Liberal candidate again for as long as I live, regardless of ABC. I don't give a fuck what the threat is. They're effectively Democrats. Fundamentally worthless from soul to spine.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

That's what I said after they fucked us on electoral reform. Being a principled voter is the correct pragmatic decision in the long term.

ABC results in US two-party system.

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[–] Deadeyegai@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Let this be a lesson.
Make the orange toddler walk into his own taco rakes. No need to set your own

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 12 points 20 hours ago

FFS

If you give him an inch, he'll take a mile

[–] Candid_Andy@lemmy.ca 3 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Lose a battle to win a war.

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Why!? You aren’t going to beat TACO with CACO, for heaven’s sake.

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