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A profound relational revolution is underway, not orchestrated by tech developers but driven by users themselves. Many of the 400 million weekly users of ChatGPT are seeking more than just assistance with emails or information on food safety; they are looking for emotional support.

“Therapy and companionship” have emerged as two of the most frequent applications for generative AI globally, according to the Harvard Business Review. This trend marks a significant, unplanned pivot in how people interact with technology.

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[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 137 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Almost like questioning an AI is free while a therapist costs a LOT of money.

[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 61 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There are other causes here.

They've been talking for a while about how the low participation in dating by Gen Z women is because they're tired of being the entire support system for men experiencing a loneliness epidemic.

It's a lot of pressure for the women to be under, and so they're withdrawing.

I'm guessing this is one of the driving forces as well. Lack of real, emotionally intimate human connections around them. Many men are quite fucked in that regard right now.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (14 children)

The flip side of that is vast numbers of Gen Z Men saying many Gen Z women are basically misandrists, who asked them to stop interacting with them unprompted, no more unwanted attention... so they did that, they stopped... and now all they see is IG and TikToks of Gen Z Women complaining that no one asks them out on dates anymore, no one is 6' tall with a 6 figure income becore the age of 30, and willing to worship them as a queen.

I am not saying this is any kind of objectively accurate to whatever degree, but I am saying that this is the very common, general vibe.

So, in that situation: Why bother?

Many men can actually be fulfilled just staying actually single, as in not even dating single, snd getting their own lives, finances, health, to a better place.

Yes this does though also mean that ... because we've just got less general, face to face socialization going on that... basically a larger than otherwise number of them will basically develop harmful, reinforcing neuroses, in harmful echo chambers... but at the same time, that applies to women as well.

This is what happens when you jam a broad economic collapse up alongside a highly digital and publicized modern media landscape that is tweaked all to fuck to highlight and push the most extreme version of everything... along with extremely mixed messaging that an only digitally socialized person recieves, but all as a firehose, that is very hard to make true sense of.

So... fuck this shit I'm out... social withdrawal... basically becomes a reasonable mental health improving move, even if it does leave you kinda socially stunted as compared to pre-internet generations.

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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (4 children)

because they're tired of being the entire support system for men experiencing a loneliness epidemic.

I've got no horse in this race but it appears that 'men should not be afraid to open up' articles and tweets were followed by 'men, we are not your therapist'.

🤷‍♂️

[–] triptrapper@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm a therapist who works almost exclusively with men. Here one pattern I've seen often:

  • Man is conditioned from a young age not to identify, process or express his feelings
  • Man doesn't share his feelings with anyone - friends, family, partners - for years
  • Man sees woman as safe, caring and validating
  • Man confides in woman only and continues not sharing feelings with others
  • Woman becomes overwhelmed, resentful, dismissive
  • Man gets the message that he never should have opened up in the first place

It can be true both that men need to open up more and should not treat their partners as therapists. We all need support systems because no one person can always be available to give us everything we need. It's not wrong to confide in a partner, but if that partner is the only confidant it's precarious for both. And I want to emphasize this is not the fault of a man, or men as a community. This is the result of generations of conditioning from both men and women, and both men and women play a part in the solution. I also want to recognize that many of us don't have a network of people we could open up to even if we wanted to, and many more can't afford therapy.

If anyone reading this can afford therapy, I highly recommend it. It's a place to undo some of that conditioning, to sit with someone who's committed to listening, caring, and not judging.

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[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago

I think there's a lot more to it than cost. Men, even with considerable health care resources, are often very averse to mental health care.

Thinking of my father in law, for example, I don't know how much you would have to pay him to get him into a therapist's office, but I'm certain he wouldn't go for free.

[–] Guidy@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Also talking to ChatGPT, if done anonymously, won’t ruin your career.

(Thinking of AD military, where they tell you help is available but in reality it will and maybe should cost you your security clearance.)

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[–] MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 78 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It's stupid as hell to share any personal information with a company that is interested in spying on you and feeding your data to the nearest advertiser they can find.

Like seriously -- are people using their brains or what?

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago

Donald Trump was ELECTED TWICE. How is the stupidity of humanity not apparent.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

are people using their brains or what?

What? No. Seriously, are you new here? And by here I mean Earth.

I see idiots all around me. Everybody only interested in advancing themselves. But if we advanced the group, it would be better for EVERYBODY.

But we as a species are too stupid to build a society that benefits everybody.

So no. No brain use here.

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[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

they need therapy, obviously they need help, and blaming them for not doing the most reasonable thing that might be unaffordable is even stupider.

blame predatory AI, openai could in a single afternoon make it so Chatgpt recomends or even helps you find a local therapist, instead of enabling this for profit.

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[–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 71 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

Alternate title "Men so starved of sources of support they resort to talking to AI"

Edit: have started a new com for men to talk to each other instead of AI /c/reprieve@lemmy.zip

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[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I can kinda understand the appeal. An AI isn't gonna judge you, an AI isn't gonna leave a mean comment or tell you to get over it and man up. It's giving an unnerving amount of personal information to corporations, but I can sympathise with the thoughts these men are having.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 18 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

AI might also be giving them better advice than anyone else in their life.

Growing up I certainly had no role models in my entire community. I never found anyone who was remotely helpful until I went to an expensive college that had lots of resources and they were freely accessible to me. Mental, physical, and academic.

A lot of people fail to realize these resources simple do not exist in large swaths of the country/economic bracket. They are mostly concentrated in wealthy and educated areas and given to wealth educated people who live there. If a farmer in Nebraska needs therapy, they will have to drive to multiple hours to Omaha or another urban area to have a decent shot at getting any assistance. Not everyone lives in a major coastal city that have the bulk of these resources.

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[–] card797@champserver.net 60 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Naturally. We were beaten up and ostracized if we showed weakness when we were kids. You CAN'T be sharing your feelings like that to another human.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (52 children)

a lot of therapists and psychs are also useless for helping men. because they are women and they are basically only trained to deal with women's issues and only see women's emotional processes and processing as 'valid'. there is this default bias that men's emotional processing is 'flawed'.

imo with mental health professionals all my 'issues' were blow way out of proportion. i only had one therapist who actaully helped me was a man and that person helped me understand that 'not everything is your fault'. when all the other therapists/friends/family always 100% told me everything that happens to me is entirely my fault. they also told me it was normal/healthy to vent my feelings by doing productive things (like writing, exercising, relaxing), rather than viewing that as 'not addressing the problem'.

the issue with so much of this crap is that not only does nobody want to talk to men, it's that they don't want to listen and/or the tell us we are 'talking wrong'. even when we do talk to people, there is only a tiny window of acceptable things we an talk about and way we can talk about them or how selfish it is of him to vent/indulge his legitimate emotions.

a woman can burst into tears over any little thing and everyone wants to help her. a man bursts into tears over his father dying of cancer and all the sudden everyone wants to tell him his reaction is too intense and he should be thinking of how he is making other people feel.

Pretty much every guy has had someone in his life try to get him to 'open up' and then we he does he's met with nothing but hostility, disappointment, and eventually rejection. We are told to shut up and never talk about it again. Never, ever is he met with acceptance or love.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Therapy is just littered with bad therapists, that do more harm than good and give the practice a bad name.

For every 1 good therapist, there are probably 10+ bad ones.

It can be a fucking ordeal to navigate, financially and emotionally, to try and find the one good one.

My worst experience was a therapist which charged me 300 dollars a session to do nothing but talk about how amazing they were, and that I need to just suck it up and be amazing like they are, afterall, it was so easy for them.

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[–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (16 children)

The amount of sexism in this comment section is...unnerving. Does a community exist for male identifying people to talk and share their troubles in a non hostile space? If it doesn't I'll make one.

Edit: No idea what I'm doing but /c/reprieve@lemmy.zip

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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Look, if you can afford therapy, really, fantastic for you. But the fact is, it's an extremely expensive luxury, even at poor quality, and sharing or unloading your mental strain with your friends or family, particularly when it is ongoing, is extremely taxing on relationships. Sure, your friends want to be there for you when they can, but it can put a major strain depending on how much support you need. If someone can alleviate that pressure and that stress even a little bit by talking to a machine, it's in extremely poor taste and shortsighted to shame them for it. Yes, they're willfully giving up their privacy, and yes, it's awful that they have to do that, but this isn't like sharing memes... in the hierarchy of needs, getting the pressure of those those pent up feelings out is important enough to possibly be worth the trade-off. Is it ideal? Absolutely not. Would it be better if these systems were anonymized? Absolutely. But humans are natural anthropomorphizers. They develop attachments and build relationships with inanimate objects all the time. And a really good therapist is more a reflection for you to work through things yourself anyway, mostly just guiding your thoughts towards better patterns of thinking. There's no reason the machine can't do that, and while it's not as good as a human, it's a HUGE improvement on average over nothing at all.

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[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 32 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I see a lot of people in this thread reacting with open hostility and derailment every time men's issues are mentioned. Have you tried not being a part of the problem?

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[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 32 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Like... yeah?

Tried to open to a girlfriend about a sensitive topic - she got the ick.

Tried to make an appointment with a psychiatrist - got a very hateful rejection because of my place of birth.

Damn, even when I try to uplift a friend, I use phrases like 'you got this before, you'll get it now'.

I don't know how to be a man, mentally

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 18 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Getting rejection because of place of birth is worth getting that doctors license revoked, find out which body governs doctors in your location and file a complaint

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[–] vane@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Maybe because it's cheaper, easier and you're not judged by other person.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (7 children)

What a clickbait. Of course people are picking feee resource with zero friction over 120$ an hour half a day event.

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[–] Geodad@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Some people would rather yalk to something they know is fake than to talk to a person who may or may not be.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 21 points 18 hours ago (7 children)

Part of me is ok with this in that any avenue to get mental health resources can be better than nothing. What worries me is that people will use ChatGPT for this sort of thing and these models will not be good help.

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[–] fellowmortal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Just a note to say that the very first chat bot, Eliza, created in the 1960's was a Rogerian therapist. I'm sure I remember a quote that the author was surprised that people opened up to it. I doubt anyone working in AI or chat technology would not know about Eliza so probably not a surprise to the industry... but maybe I am that old. [edits: facts/spelling etc]

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