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[–] Pringles@sopuli.xyz 253 points 5 days ago (19 children)

That's an EU regulation, not a corporate measure. And it has drastically decreased the amount of littered bottle caps, so a good thing.

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Littered bottle caps was a problem? Anyway, I hope they do cigarette filters next.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The caps was a problem yes. Not just littering, but also in sorting for recycling, where they'd often end up in the wrong place.

It obviously depends on where and how it's done, but the thing I've heard is that due to (the lack of) weight and size the bottle caps would end up in the paper badges, which would ruin the paper from being recycled. It's better if it follows the bottle. PET bottles (including caps) are shredded, washed and used for new bottles.

Same thing happened to the pull tabs on aluminium cans. Those used to be separate too.

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[–] quoll@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 4 days ago (3 children)

That’s an EU regulation, not a corporate measure. And it has drastically decreased the amount of littered bottle caps, so a good thing.

you should only be allowed to buy cigarettes if you can account for all your ciggy butts or pick-up an equal amount.

[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In Australia they have something called "report a tosser" people who are proven to have littered anything from cigarette buds to plastic bottles and more will be fined to hell and back.

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[–] anzo@programming.dev 9 points 4 days ago

Those float in the sea, we don't want that iiuc. Is a different plastic too, way more valuable from a recycling perspective (in Argentina hospitals used to collect caps to melt and make toys for childrens)

[–] arc99@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

I was interested in that whole ecoli eating plastic and producing 95% acetaminophen from it by mass. Maybe we can stop a lot of the plastic from water/soda bottles and just medicate ourselves till our livers shit themselves out our assholes.

Also it means recycle schemes get a % boost because a lot more bottles come back for recycling with their caps. I wouldn't be surprised if the cap is 10-20% of the total plastic in a bottle so caps were missing then that's wasted opportunity.

I remember as a kid when ring pulls on case used to detach and that's the same thing too. I remember my dad metal detecting on the beach and he'd recover dozens of ringpulls because people just tossed them.

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[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 140 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I think the cap thing is more about littering because in those countries people litter only the cap for some reason?

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 214 points 5 days ago (2 children)

When cleaning up beaches and the like, those caps are the litter they found the most.

People lost them or didn't bother to pick them up because they are so small. Unlike with the bottles themselves.

Since they switched to the new caps, the amount of caps found has decreased significantly.

So yes, they work. It is all based on data.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 74 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Ofc it is, but stupid fucks have to complain about mundane shit

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'm only complaining about all the people that apparently regularly lost bottle caps. I don't think that has happened to me ever... Not the end of the world and if it reduces litter I'll deal with it but I curse these people every time one of the new caps is being annoying to screw back on.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Minority opinion, but I like those style caps. I like that I dont have to hold the cap. It's much easier on the go.

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[–] philthi@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

Also, the caps separated from the bottle fall through dinky cracks easier, like street drain covers) and get lost easier (or drop out of the bottom of the bin easier, etc.), being attached to the large bottle makes that more difficult to occur.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Not sure if this applied universally, but I remember for years and years the common knowledge was that plastic caps are unrecyclable for some reason, and there used to be separate bins to toss them at recycling centers. That's no longer the case, so keeping the cap connected to the bottle is one way to demonstrate that they should be recycled together.

(By "recycled" I mean most likely shipped to Southeast Asia to then most likely just find their way into the ocean)

[–] tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think the kind of plastic used in bottles is one of very few that actually are profitable to recycle. PET, I think. This is actually something recycling companies want. Most other plastic is just burned or shipped somewhere.

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[–] Plaidboy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 days ago

IIRC the reason most caps used to be unrecyclable (many still are) is that they had a liner in them made of a different material. Because such caps were composite materials (using different types of plastic for the liner and the cap), they would make an impure product if recycled. The same problem applies if the cap and bottle are different types of plastic, which used to be more common.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago

(By "recycled" I mean most likely shipped to Southeast Asia to then most likely just find their way into the ocean)

You would be wrong; PET bottles are mostly actually recycled, because it recycles very well (also, why would places go to the effort of setting up a deposit/return scheme for something they aren't actually recycling? Just throw it in the blue bag with all the other plastic that doesn't actually get recycled)

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[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 days ago (6 children)

The bottle has a deposit on it, the cap doesn't

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[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 56 points 4 days ago (7 children)

PET bottle recycling is the only part of plastics recycling that actually works. Making sure the bottle caps are also correctly returned to recycling plants is a good goal. Also it makes picking up litter a little easier, because now you only need to pick up one thing instead of two.

Btw, this is why clothing/bags/... made out of recycled plastic bottles is actually a terrible idea, because once the PET is out of the bottle recycling stream it is permanently removed from this recycling loop and new PET needs to be produced to compensate.

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[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 44 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I end up dribbling because the lid gets in my way, but it's fine because I'm helping to offset the pollution caused by a billionaire's private jet.

[–] hobovision@lemm.ee 13 points 4 days ago (6 children)

If you keep pushing it further open it has a detent that will hold it open far enough that even my big nose won't touch it... It's an amazing design, better than a screw cap in every way. Well, at least the properly designed ones.

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I remember when cans used to have tabs that tore off. These were changed to the current model, where the tab stays attached after the can is opened.

People complained that they couldn't drink properly with the new tab design. I guess they either figured it out, died, started using a glass, or gave up drinks in cans completely, since I haven't heard this complaint in decades.

Anyway, I hope you figure it out, comrade! Good luck!

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[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 33 points 5 days ago

Even worse, "it's mildly annoying, so I don't wanna!" Ofc would be better if people didn't throw em away at all, But alas

[–] Zatore@lemmy.zip 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I like the convenience of not losing the cap

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 9 points 4 days ago

Easier to walk around with an open bottle too since you don't have to hold the cap or put it into your pocket

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 4 days ago

Attached cap prevents it from becoming a macroplastic

[–] theUwUhugger@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (13 children)

Hahehahahehhahahahahhrha I don’t know what a thing is for

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[–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Conspiracy theory of mine - I’m European, so not sure if valid for the other side of the pond, but there was a massive campaign here to recycle the bottle caps by donating them for the creation of incubators for premature births. The local authorities placed massive donation boxes shaped like a heart and they were getting filled constantly.

Here’s the theory: When the campaign started getting up to speed, they started attaching the bottle caps to the bottle, because, I strongly believe, that out there, there is an absolute evil cunt who only feels something when a baby dies, so he wants fewer donated caps, because deep inside he knows people don’t care enough to snap the cap off.

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[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 10 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Thanks for explaining, I was worried this was a band aid mesure which didn't solve to root cause. /s

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[–] arc99@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I don't know what % of plastic the cap comprises in a plastic bottle but I bet its double digits. So annoying as it is to use, attaching the cap to the bottle does make sense for recycling. It also lessens litter.

But it needs to be paired up with a deposit refund scheme. Lots of countries do this already and encourages circular economies - the soft drinks companies purchasing recycle material to reuse. I bet those schemes measured a significant jump in recovered plastic when virtually all the caps come back with the bottles.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Annoying? Am I the only one who thinks it's more convenient? The cap cannot fall, you can open it one handed, you cannot lose the cap...

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[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If you don't like the new caps then the company that made that bottle screwed up.

[–] swizzlestick@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 days ago

Exactly - some are perfectly fine. The cheap ones are terrible, crossthread too easily, get up in your face, dribble, or all of the above.

Sports style bottles solved the problem long before standard caps got in the game. They get disposed of together here either way, even if the cap gets yanked off for being stupid.

I don't understand how they end up separate in disposal in the first place. The whole point is that you can reseal the bottle and move/store it without leaking. If you're not actively using the bottle, it gets resealed to move or store. When you finish the bottle, you probably have the cap still in hand or very close by.

Tangentially, I'd love to see a Pfand type system here.

[–] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

Real ones get their micro plastics by chewing on used car tires.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 7 points 4 days ago

Cynicism, on the other hand - that's always good.

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